I dont feel that the time is quite right to move to having the default release
as a DVD. Obviously at some point in the future as the code increases this
will have to happen, but surely this should be a decision taken by the core
developers only when they feel that trying to make it fit on a CD will mean
removing too much of the core functionality to make it a viable out-of-the-box
desktop experience. Much of the usefulness and charm of Ubuntu comes from it
maintaining its relatively small size and handyness, even on older systems. As
a small aside, i also fear that moving to a DVD too early may result in
unessesary bloat. Is it not possible to release cd images with a default
language other than english? Surely the most logical solution would be to have
a separate .iso released for handful of the most common languages.I am not
familiar with how translation in software really works so please correct me if
I am barking up the wrong tree here. I would also like to lend support to the
idea of asking the user before the installer connects to the internet.
Although it may seem trivial to some people, I see it as simply being polite.
I dont want to feel like my OS thinks it knows what I want better than I do. A
simple dialog along these lines would suffice, and help the user to feel like
they are using an OS, not the other way around: "To install the the following
components you have selected, extra packages must be downloaded from the
internet: <packages>To install these now, please click continue. If you do
not wish to install these right now, please click install
later<continue><install later>" > Subject: Re: You lost a new Ubuntu user>
From: cche...@ubuntu.com> To: m...@jump-ing.de> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:24:28
-0600> CC: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> > On Sun, 2008-12-28 at 12:03
+0100, Markus Hitter wrote:> > Am 28.12.2008 um 07:49 schrieb Chris Cheney:> >
> > > Thus it would take a very long time to download for a large > > >
percentage of the world. Although perhaps this is not as big an > > > issue
since many places have a bandwidth cap as well so people > > > wouldn't be
downloading the image in the first place?> > > > > > You propose to
intentionally get rid of a significant number of > > users? Hmm.> > > > For me,
the limited size of the CD is one of the great features of > > Ubuntu as it not
only allows a reasonable quick download, but > > obviously stops Ubuntu from
bloating as well.> > > > > > MarKus> > Well this discussion did start out due
to the fact that the install CD> currently needs an internet connection to
install language packs since> they don't fit on the cd. Which brought up the
issue of installing them> over an internet connection which in many countries
is prohibitively> expensive. So going to a default DVD release could possibly
alleviate> this issue, assuming that the users in those countries could get
access> to the DVDs via shipit or some other means. Of course they couldn't>
download the DVD image for the same reason they can't download updates> and
language packs today, that is their internet connection is too> limited and
expensive.> > With respect of the cost of pressed CDs vs DVDs for shipit, I
don't know> how much they cost. However, some newspapers in the UK give away
DVDs> with their newspapers, of course they may be advertising subsidized to>
offset the cost.> > Chris > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list>
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