On 02/12/08 07:34, Tom Van Looy wrote: > Hi > > $ sudo service --status-all 2>/dev/null | grep -i usage > Usage: /etc/init.d/console-setup {start|reload|restart|force-reload|stop} > * Usage: hwclock.sh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|show} > * Usage: hwclock.sh {start|stop|reload|force-reload|show} > Usage: /etc/init.d/keyboard-setup {start|reload|restart|force-reload|stop} > Usage: /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common {start} > Usage: /etc/init.d/loopback {start|stop|restart|force-reload} > Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop|restart|force-reload} > Usage: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd {start|stop|reload|force-reload|restart} > Usage: /etc/init.d/readahead {start|stop|restart|force-reload} > Usage: /etc/init.d/readahead {start|stop|restart|force-reload} > Usage: /etc/init.d/udev {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} > Usage: /etc/init.d/udev {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} > > Some tools print their "usage" to stderr, some tools print to stdout. I > don't like to see "Usage" prints on stdout. Because, that kinda screws > up the --status-all output. Isn't there some kind of standard (like LSB) > that, ideally, should be followed? > > I'm just digging into Ubuntu so I'm pretty new at how things are rolled > in Linux land. But this seems not right ... Is someone thinking about > solving this? It seems the work is in changing all the rc scripts in > packages so that they act in a uniform way (maybe add a "status" option > to all of them too). I know bash so I could submit some patches :-) > > And now that I'm asking. What are the prefered CLI tools (that come with > the base system) to manage the rc scripts? Or am I supposed to just edit > the files. > > Kind regards, > > Tom > > The script to manage rc scripts is update-rc.d
There is a bug and patches for dealing with status - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/203169 The comment about "usage" being sent to stderr is interesting, a quick grep though intrepid gives the following data: * There are 83 occurrences of "Usage:" * Of those, 49 are diverting output to ">&2" * The rest (34) are not diverting output on the echo itself, though I didn't dig deeper to see if the redirect happened at any other point in the script. This indicates to me that there isn't a standard implementation of "correct" behaviour. I was unable to locate an answer from the LSB standards, but as I see it, the "Usage:"-message would only come up with an incorrect/incomplete invocation of an init.d script, indicating to me that it should only be sent to stderr. -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S31°54'06" - E115°50'39" (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno.. |>>? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 8888 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss