Note to John and others : *building a PC*. Anyone can go to ANY small computer shop, talk to a techie, and have a computer built, CHEAPER and BETTER ! Ask your techie which O/S he/she is using, if it is not Linux, get another techie. Every techie that I know that is any good, uses Linux. Most think Ubuntu is too mainstream. (who cares) For a price, they will load Linux, even Ubuntu !!!! It may cost the same as MS Windows, again, who cares ?!?! Most users only want a system that "just works". Tomorrow I'm going to a friends' house to repair a "Windows Vista" system, it has a few viruses, lots of Spybots, and is now generally slo=o=o=oW ! To install Ubuntu and totally configure it will take me too long. <<<<<ahah is that the real problem ??? Allen
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:04 PM, John Pyper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the average Joe would buy parts individually and build a computer > instead > of getting a pre-built one, we wouldn't have this "Microsoft tax" to deal > with. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy a pre-built solution, but they are > there for those who eight don't know much about computers or don't want to > take the extra bit of effort to match up the colored wires to the back of > the box. Just my 2 cents, and I want a penny back. :) > > John Pyper > BaD_CrC on Freenode #ubuntu,#ubuntu-offtopic > Kent, WA, USA > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:50 AM, »John« <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Don't get me wrong - I never made the assumption you mentioned. The > > point is, that even if the ratio is much lower (say 2:8), the GNU/Linux > > user base will start growing much faster and at some point all the > > problems with 3rd-party support will be gone, leaving only the bugs > > causing problems with usability for average joe standing in our way (I > > guess we can all agree that majority of ICT users are nothing more than > > average joes knowing nothing more than just how to use their machines > > for basic tasks). > > > > The problem is that although (using your own words) "anyone can > > uninstall windows and replace it with whatever they like", they still > > make you pay for the bundled OS with absolute disregard to whether you > > actually use it or not and getting your money for unused license back is > > almost impossible despite the fact this right is granted to everyone by > > Microsoft's own EULA; you see where this is going - this way you > > literally pay Microsoft the ransom for being so bold to purchase a > > computer, giving them the money they need to survive and recover from > > failures like the one with ME & Vista. If this can be stopped, they > > wouldn't be able to withstand too many failures which make them loose > > money and expend their reserves... > > > > I agree GNU/Linux isn't ready for prime time quite yet, but it's already > > pretty suitable for user who doesn't need anything more than browse the > > internet, play his multimedia and use the office suite (I agree that > > multimedia can be hell of a pain in the ass if hardware acceleration of > > these things doesn't work on your machine, but that's exactly the kind > > of 3rd-party support I meant; the same thing understandably goes for the > > lack of drivers for the WinSomething kind of "hardware"). > > > > What I'm trying to tell is: all present OSes suffer from usability > > problems to the certain extent, so it's something we can deal with, but > > that is not the case of any unfair advantages Microsoft has over us... > > > > -- > > Microsoft has a majority market share > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > > of the bug. > > > > -- > Microsoft has a majority market share > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Confirmed > Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Confirmed > Status in JAK LINUX: Confirmed > Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: Confirmed > Status in Launchpad Translations: Invalid > Status in Tabuntu: Confirmed > Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed > Status in "bum" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in "casper" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in "djplay" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in "firefox" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in "ubuntu-express" source package in Ubuntu: Invalid > Status in The Breezy Badger: Invalid > Status in The Dapper Drake: Invalid > Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Confirmed > Status in "linux" source package in Debian: Confirmed > Status in Tilix Linux: New > > Bug description: > Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. > This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. > > Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, > restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and > limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, > globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. > > Steps to repeat: > > 1. Visit a local PC store. > > What happens: > 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software > pre-installed. > 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. > > What should happen: > 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like > Ubuntu. > 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and > benefits would be apparent and known by all. > 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes. > -- http://picasaweb.google.com/allenggraham/Mazatlan -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs