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On 2006-01-22T01:47:23+00:00 Dima Ryazanov wrote:

Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.1)
Installed from:    Gentoo Packages
Compiler:          gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 (Gentoo 4.0.2-r3, pie-8.7.8) 
OS:                Linux

I selected Xine as the KMPlayer engine.
With default settings, when it starts playing something, Xine always resets the 
PCM volume to 100% or close to that. (Normally, I have it at 50%, so that makes 
the sound very loud.)

I tried to change Xine settings, and noticed that it doesn't happen if I
unselect "audio.alsa_hw_mixer", or set "audio.device.alsa_mixer_name" to
"Master", instead of "PCM". I'm not completely sure what this means,
though. (What exactly is PCM? Why is there sound if Master is at 0%? And
no sound with PCM at 0%...)

I think that KMPlayer should set some sane values for Xine
configuration.

Also, it seems that KMPlayer doesn't update its own volume slider when
the volume is changed by some other program.

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On 2006-01-22T14:45:19+00:00 Koos-vriezen wrote:

There is a config option 'Auto set volume on start' that is used by the Xine 
backend to set the volume according the volume slider.
Volume setting is a bit of a mesh currently. The volume slider in the 
controlpanel, asks backend to adjust volume. The one in the popdown menu, asks 
kmix to set the volume (if running). Only the latter has a notion if somewhere 
else the volume has changed.
The real problem is that KDE hasn't got API's for this. One can only use either 
kmix, or duplicate all its code. Probably a matter of waiting for KDE4 ..

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On 2006-11-14T14:15:35+00:00 Mcguire-c wrote:

Please don't enable the option 'Auto set volume on start' by default then!
I use an external amplifier, and when KMPlayer resets the PCM volume to 100%, 
it is unbearable loud (normally PCM is set to 10%).

KMPlayer should, by default, under no circumstances, automatically
increase the volume of any alsa channel.

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On 2006-11-25T00:50:26+00:00 hackeron wrote:

Yes, this is awful - at 3am, I had my powered monitors set to 3%, right
clicked on a movie and clicked properties and my volume shot up to 90%
because there is a preview tab that uses kmplayer - very bad :(

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On 2006-11-25T01:34:15+00:00 Koos-vriezen wrote:

I hope you learned your lesson when installing an app. to check out what it 
does. I guess I could change the defaults (I hope I remember it, but leave this 
BR open until then). I think best is to lower the initial volume to 20% or so, 
to avoid that touching the volume bar a little bit changes the volume a lot 
more.
If however one of you didn't install kmplayer explicitly, and where so 
supprised, like the poster of #3, then I would suggest to also notify your 
distribution packager. Because its his/her task to make a consistant desktop. 
He/she may not be aware of the issue, and for a packager its really simple to 
enable/disable a certain option by default (in the global kmplayerrc). I know 
of Debian having set the backends all to Xine for example.

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On 2006-11-25T16:06:51+00:00 Koos-vriezen wrote:

SVN commit 607727 by vriezen:

Defaults volume to 20%

CCBUG: 120579


 M  +1 -1      kmplayerconfig.cpp  


--- trunk/extragear/multimedia/kmplayer/src/kmplayerconfig.cpp #607726:607727
@@ -272,7 +272,7 @@
     sub_urllist = m_config->readListEntry (strSubURLList, ';');
     prefbitrate = m_config->readNumEntry (strPrefBitRate, 512);
     maxbitrate = m_config->readNumEntry (strMaxBitRate, 1024);
-    volume = m_config->readNumEntry (strVolume, 80);
+    volume = m_config->readNumEntry (strVolume, 20);
     contrast = m_config->readNumEntry (strContrast, 0);
     brightness = m_config->readNumEntry (strBrightness, 0);
     hue = m_config->readNumEntry (strHue, 0);


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On 2006-11-25T18:42:57+00:00 Mcguire-c wrote:

>I hope you learned your lesson when installing an app. to check out what it 
>>does. 
Well KMPlayer is the ONLY app which changes ALSA channels automatically. Xine 
itself even does not do it automatically. I DID learn my lesson, I do not turn 
on the speakers when installing an OS, because the OS usually sets all volume 
channels to 100%. However, once after setting the volume of all channels 
correctly, this is not an issue anymore, because all apps behave and do not 
change that (except KMPlayer).

Still, xine is not as good as amarok, because amarok sets the volume 
internally, while xine changes the mixer settings when changing the volume. See
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1322093&group_id=9655&atid=109655

However, both amarok and xine do not change the volume automatically,
while KMPlayer does.


>I guess I could change the defaults (I hope I remember it, but leave this BR 
>>open until then). I think best is to lower the initial volume to 20% or so, 
>to >avoid that touching the volume bar a little bit changes the volume a lot 
>more. 
Well I don't care if the default volume is 20% or 80%, the default volume 
should simply be the volume currently set! Why do you want to change the 
current volume at all?? There is a reason I set the volume to a specific level. 
Why not simply use the volume the user specified in the mixer settings?
Basically, not setting the 'Auto set volume on start' option by default would 
solve all problems. Out of curiosity, why is this option needed at all? Is 
there a usecase?

>If however one of you didn't install kmplayer explicitly, and where so 
>>supprised, like the poster of #3, then I would suggest to also notify your 
>>distribution packager. Because its his/her task to make a consistant desktop. 
>>He/she may not be aware of the issue, and for a packager its really simple to 
>>enable/disable a certain option by default (in the global kmplayerrc). I know 
>>of Debian having set the backends all to Xine for example. 
I disagree, this is not a distribution issue. The apps should have a sensible 
defaults. Changing the volume of a channel behind the user's back is not 
sensible. I don't see why distributions should patch that.

Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh.

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On 2006-11-25T21:04:02+00:00 hackeron wrote:

So this SVN commit makes kmplayer change the volume to 20 instead of 80?
-- What does that fix?

I'm confused, so if I'm using 3/100 most of the time because I have
powered monitors it still increases volume to deafening levels and now
on my other box where I have a volume control on the speakers themselves
decreases volume to 20?

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