my problem is that if ubuntu-desktop is removed it will mean that new features added between releases as recommends of ubuntu-desktop will not be pulled in. I don't mind some bundling, but there is no reason that anything non-essential is marked as a dependency, it should be a recommended package instead. For example, if i don't have and will never have a printer attached or a scanner or a CD/DVD drive why can't I remove all the related packages without damaging the upgrade-ability of my system?
On Dec 30, 2007 7:36 PM, FrankyT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually I'm thinking it's almost a non-issue, having gotten around to > doing some testing. I do have a few recommendations however. > > I had seen earlier in the thread, and elsewhere, that removing the > ubuntu-desktop package by itself does nothing, because it is a meta- > package. I had trouble getting a confirmation on that however so I tried > it on a box i was rebuilding (bye bye vista!). > > Removing one piece of Ubuntu-desktop prereq software (lets say xsane) > does remove xsane and the ubuntu-desktop meta-package (since you no > longer have all the sub-components), but DOES NOT remove any other > packages referred to by Ubuntu-desktop. this is the behavior I was > unclear on. Like others I was concerned that this action would remove > gnome and everything else GUI oriented. > > so my recommendation is to make that information more easily available. > perhaps a message box or some other form of user notification that this > action is not inadvertently harmful to the rest of your desktop > environment. > > I can see that others on the thread are complaining of bloat in the > default package. I can understand that, coming from a windows > background, but being a bit of a n00b, if a competent one, I do > appreciate at least some of the bundling. besides, it you install ubuntu > server, it's really easy to install the gui with apt-get, since you only > need to call the one package > > I agree with others above who have requested an install-time > software/services selection tool. that way we could check/uncheck boxes > to install optional packages. the one thing synaptic is bad at is > suggesting a n00b what they want and need. canonical handles this by > bundling common supported software, to make sure that whatever we need, > it is ready to go. > > so to sum up: > 1) notify the user that removing xsane and ubuntu-desktop will not remove > gnome or any other dependent packages. > > 2) give better control to advanced users over what software is > installed, before it is installed, so that they can pick and choose the > packages that are right for them. > > Happy new years folks > > -- > [Gutsy] unnecessary packages in ubuntu-desktop dependencies? > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/122039 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- [Gutsy] unnecessary packages in ubuntu-desktop dependencies? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/122039 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
