Public bug reported:
Ubuntu 18.04.2
I miss an easy way to configure system locale to be ISO aware. I would
like to see pre-configured package for this purpose.
When I install Ubuntu, installer doesn't ask about region. I guess it
uses timezone information and applies best effort to configure new
system. My example, I am in Czech Republic, Timezone is Europe/Prague,
so language is set to Czech and regional formats are set to Czech and.
Great configuration for secretary or poem writer...
As a side effect, when I go to CLI and do "ls -l", I see this output and
I really don't like it:
# ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 lis 22 14:16 x.log
I like this output:
# LC_ALL=C ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 Nov 22 14:16 x.log
We live in global World, many servers run in different clouds and are managed
by international teams, so some unification is required.
In the past, I was able to switch my desktop from Czech to to English
and after that tune some details, like switch time format from 12h to
24h format, etc. I cannot do this with Ubuntu 18.04 anymore. I have to
select pre-configured settings from 18.04 list, like Czech or US-English
or UK English, etc. I suggest to create new configuration, that will be
English with ISO aware time and date formats, and use as much as global
standards as possible, and deploy it with just selecting from menu
(install additional languages and regions).
I can go to my file-system and tune my local configuration in /etc and
rebuild locales. I believe it will be better to do it on system level,
to create "locale package" for "World Domination", package that will be
usable for all professionals who has to work in global environments in
different time zones. You can call it World Domination or "IT
professional" or "global ISO", or what ever you like...
BTW, this is my locale output, it is mix, chaos; it is result that was
generated by switching options in GUI..:
# locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TIME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_NAME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
** Affects: langpack-locales (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Description changed:
Ubuntu 18.04.2
I miss an easy way to configure system locale to be ISO aware. I would
like to see pre-configured package for this purpose.
When I install Ubuntu, installer doesn't ask about region. I guess it
uses timezone information and applies best effort to configure new
system. My example, I am in Czech Republic, Timezone is Europe/Prague,
so language is set to Czech and regional formats are set to Czech and.
Great configuration for secretary or poem writer...
As a side effect, when I go to CLI and do "ls -l", I see this output and I
really don't like it:
- <pre>
+ ```
# ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 lis 22 14:16 x.log
- </pre>
+ ```
I like this output:
- <pre>
+ ```
# LC_ALL=C ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 Nov 22 14:16 x.log
- </pre>
+ ```
We live in global World, many servers run in different clouds and are
managed by international teams, so some unification is required.
In the past, I was able to switch my desktop from Czech to to English
and after that tune some details, like switch time format from 12h to
24h format, etc. I cannot do this with Ubuntu 18.04 anymore. I have to
select pre-configured settings from 18.04 list, like Czech or US-English
or UK English, etc. I suggest to create new configuration, that will be
English with ISO aware time and date formats, and use as much as global
standards as possible, and deploy it with just selecting from menu
(install additional languages and regions).
I can go to my file-system and tune my local configuration in /etc and
rebuild locales. I believe it will be better to do it on system level,
to create "locale package" for "World Domination", package that will be
usable for all professionals who has to work in global environments in
different time zones. You can call it World Domination or "IT
professional" or "global ISO", or what ever you like...
BTW, this is my locale output, it is mix, chaos; it is result that was
generated by switching options in GUI..:
- <pre>
+ ```
# locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TIME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_NAME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
- </pre>
+ ```
** Description changed:
Ubuntu 18.04.2
I miss an easy way to configure system locale to be ISO aware. I would
like to see pre-configured package for this purpose.
When I install Ubuntu, installer doesn't ask about region. I guess it
uses timezone information and applies best effort to configure new
system. My example, I am in Czech Republic, Timezone is Europe/Prague,
so language is set to Czech and regional formats are set to Czech and.
Great configuration for secretary or poem writer...
- As a side effect, when I go to CLI and do "ls -l", I see this output and I
really don't like it:
- ```
+ As a side effect, when I go to CLI and do "ls -l", I see this output and
+ I really don't like it:
+
# ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 lis 22 14:16 x.log
- ```
+
I like this output:
- ```
+
# LC_ALL=C ls -l
total 15208
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15570124 Nov 22 14:16 x.log
- ```
- We live in global World, many servers run in different clouds and are
- managed by international teams, so some unification is required.
+
+ We live in global World, many servers run in different clouds and are managed
by international teams, so some unification is required.
In the past, I was able to switch my desktop from Czech to to English
and after that tune some details, like switch time format from 12h to
24h format, etc. I cannot do this with Ubuntu 18.04 anymore. I have to
select pre-configured settings from 18.04 list, like Czech or US-English
or UK English, etc. I suggest to create new configuration, that will be
English with ISO aware time and date formats, and use as much as global
standards as possible, and deploy it with just selecting from menu
(install additional languages and regions).
I can go to my file-system and tune my local configuration in /etc and
rebuild locales. I believe it will be better to do it on system level,
to create "locale package" for "World Domination", package that will be
usable for all professionals who has to work in global environments in
different time zones. You can call it World Domination or "IT
professional" or "global ISO", or what ever you like...
BTW, this is my locale output, it is mix, chaos; it is result that was
generated by switching options in GUI..:
- ```
# locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TIME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_NAME=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=cs_CZ.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
- ```
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new language region for World Domination, ISO aware language region
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