also, it will not install from the live-cd (says it can't find it)

it should be included in the live-cd...

Gnash will install, but is still very beta (not really an option right
now). It confuses more in my opinion. If someone wanted to install gnash
they would do it throu synaptic or add/remove progr.

we want flash non-free prompted and installable by default...

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[gutsy] flash plugin reported as installed when it actually failed
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/139138
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