OK, I guess I need to clear up some of what I said. Thanks for all the responses.
To be clear, I WANT Gutsy to be the Windows replacement for all my friends and family. I want Open Source to take over the world, for political reasons, and because I think eventually that will lead to better code/software for all humanity in the long run. All the errors I am reporting were under metacity, not under compiz. I've asked about my errors about 20 times in #ubuntu+1 and at least twice in the VERY busy #ubuntu. I actually get an extra 2-3 fps in Urban Terror under compiz. For the record, Urban Terror is the only 3d app that actually works, though. Besides MUPEN (not mugen as somebody else typed), it is the only native app that I try to run that has 3d. Well, those and glxinfo and glxgears, which I have been running trying to figure out what the @$^* is wrong. I understand that some of these issues are my own personal issues based on my upgrade path from tribe 4 up to beta 1. Still, that shows there is a significant problem somewhere in the whole setup of how Ubuntu upgrades itself, IE the update manager, or somewhere else. Further: The other problems are (probably) not related to this at all, and I forgot to mention another one: My wacom tablet doesn't work with pressure sensitivity. I am reporting these bugs, here and in Launchpad, because I want to move about 20 people from Windows to Linux, and Ubuntu is the closest one I have seen yet to being usable by those 20 non-tech types. So far though, all that works correctly is Open Office, Firefox, Thunderbird, Rhythmbox, and Totem for watching "The Office" or movies or whatever. No graphic design stuff works right because the wacom doesn't work. Also, without compiz and the zoom plugin, it's hard to air brush properly while zoomed in as was possible in feisty (or maybe it was in tribe 4 or something, I don't remember now). Further, The Gimp seems to be rereading it's plugin database EVERY TIME it loads, which is un- necessary and slow. Inkscape is also pointless, since the wacom isn't working properly. You can pretty much substitute ANY graphic arts program for those two, and point them out as pointless, since the wacom isn't working. No games are working. Except for Sudoku. I'm getting ludicrously bad frame rates in any 3d game or app. As soon as I join a server, I get slaughtered immediately because I only get a MAX of 20 fps. This is in Urban Terror (which is a native port of quake 3 with different gameplay and levels, highly recommended, by the way, beats the pants off counter strike). The native n64 emu (Mupen) doesn't work. It crashes before the ROM starts playing. Nothing 3d works under wine. They say it's a wine issue in IRC, but that doesn't really matter, if nobody on Ubuntu can play games.... Somebody needs to maybe pop over to winehq and submit a patch. There is no way to import video from a video camera or VCR, or Tivo over my TV card. There should be a very simple point and click interface that automagically gives you a file you can upload to YouTube. This may be an issue OVER ALL with Linux, and not just this release, or Ubuntu in particular. I mean, you can't expect people to use an OS if they can't upload Timmy's birthday song to YouTube or some such thing. There should be an app that looks exactly like TVtime, but has a big button with a red circle on it, then when pushed begins recording a standard divx or xvid file, right to the home directory. This isn't rocket science, I can't believe nobody has written this app yet, and it somehow hasn't made it into the default installation. The situation with Ardour and Jack, and needing to type in your password all the time is stupid, and a pain in the ass. I should be able to just double click an icon, and BANG, up pops ardour (and jack too automatically, if it is needed), and I can press record and the first track starts recording. It should work like that in Jokosher, too, if it doesn't already. How am I supposed to justify using this OS when I have to type in passwords and click multiple icons all the time, just to start recording? Pidgin rules. You can talk to MySpace, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, IRC, Jabber, and others all at the same time. This is like the ONE spot where Linux is beating windows/mac, except you can actually just get Pidgin for Windows, anyway. This is a separate issue (sort of), but where is the super easy to use Video Conference software? There should be a plugin for Pidgin that automatically starts a H.264 conference with speex audio. This alone would push Ubuntu into the main stream to beat Windows and Mac. Maybe that's not what you guys want. Maybe you keep wanting to play 3rd string to those proprietary OSes that ALSO have a laundry list of poor design decisions. If not, though, and you DO want Ubuntu to be the Windows of tomorrow (IE the OS THAT EVERYONE ON THE PLANET USES), I suggest you fix all of these very simple issues. All the code is here already (Speex, Ekiga, Pidgin, TVtime, Kino, Jokosher, Jack, ioquake3, firefox, compiz, gimp......), but right now as a system, Gutsy is not even USABLE!!!!! Please fix these issues so I can switch everybody I know over to Linux from Windows, and save the planet and all of our wallets. rhY PS I have a VERY COMMON setup. Viewsonic monitor, geforce 6600 gt, nforce 4 motherboard amd 64, onboard audio, LAN, and a couple of sata drives. Here is my glxinfo, for any dev that wants to figure out why my 3d is freaking out: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo name of display: :1.0 display: :1 screen: 0 direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation client glx version string: 1.4 client glx extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_NV_swap_group, GLX_NV_video_out, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_NV_float_buffer, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6600 GT/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 1.2 (2.1.0 NVIDIA 96.39) OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shadow, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two, GL_ARB_vertex_program, GL_ARB_fragment_program, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color, GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine, GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once, GL_HP_occlusion_test, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_NV_texture_env_combine4, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 0x2c 24 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2d 24 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x2e 32 tc 0 32 0 r y . 8 8 8 8 0 24 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 Ncon 0x2f 32 tc 0 32 0 r . . 8 8 8 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Ncon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- Outstanding bugs in Gutsy Beta https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147354 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs