dug a bit and found that Virtualbox could not locate a vm with UUID 
XXXXXXX-XXXX-XXX-XX__
 I then looked in /home/VirtualBox VMs found a extra file named Lubuntu 
Appliance in addition to the normal Lubuntu VM
as a test I moved it and all errors are now gone. I suspect it might be a fail 
start or shutdown VM report/log but it works so 
I am happy

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  VirtualBox crashed with SIGABRT in qt_message_output()

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