Soren, I think we're going round in circles here. Your ash tray analogy says it all. Please go back and read the initial contribution by Jim Shanks a.k.a. the voice of reason :) I also suspect we are on different planets when it comes to my futile attempts at humour to calm the waters. I suppose, I should insert smileys more often :) Of course, it goes without saying that I would share my humble experiences to save people from a similar fate, as I have already done on many forums...I need the damned thing working first! Geddit?
I have had enough hardship with Microsoft over the years trying to get them to see the real problems that people on the infra-structure side face on the ground, but at least they always couched their lack of empathy in corporate speak...thank you so much for sparing me that particular fate. I expect you'll have the last word on this as is your wont...as I ride into the sunset...only for the weekend that is, I'll be back in full battle regalia first thing Monday. Have a nice weekend! > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Soren Hansen > Sent: 07 September 2007 12:20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Bug 137656] Re: Samba Backport Urgently Needed > > > On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:35:52AM -0000, rvjcallanan wrote: > > Please Soren, I know you probably work your ass off on this > stuff, but > > try not to be so precious. I am just a humble infrastructure guy > > trying to make things *actually work*. My lack of expertise > regarding > > what goes on in your domain should not in any way detract from my > > basic requirement that it "should do what it says on the tin". > > If you actually want me to do anything for you, you could start by not > suggesting over and over again that nothing works, and everything is > completely b0rken. It's like suggesting that a car is completely > unusable because the ash tray is full. > > > > To what venom do you refer? > > Are you really serious? > > Yes. > > > > > Can Ubuntu do to Samba what it did to Debian??? > > > What would that be? > > Eh, a fork??? Ubuntu SBS? Copyright Jim Shanks > > If that's what you're referring to, I don't understand the "I > shouldn't > have said that" comment? > > > I took out a subscription to various Linux mags a couple of > years ago > > to watch developments from a safe distance and try to get a good > > picture about what was going on. My intial impressions of the > > community effort were positive, however, I could see many potential > > fault lines. I used the term "Hack Fest" earlier on in this > thread and > > that just about sums up my feeling at this stage. That is not to say > > that Microsoft doesn't have it's own structural problems which are > > reflected in products that have marketing written all over them and > > are generally over-the-top and "too bloody clever by half". > > Did it occur to you that the "hack fest" we have going on > right here out > in the open also takes place in every closed source software company, > only behind closed doors? The freedom we provide you with, is the > freedom to take what is there now and use that or to wait until Samba > marks their 4.0 release. That's a choice you have. > > > As it stands, I am on the *cusp* of implementing a reliable > MS Windows > > SB Server replacement using *stable* Ubuntu 6.06 LTS/Samba 3.0.22. I > > have avoided file system extended attributes. Even though > they appear > > to be supported by Dapper, it seems that cp, tar and many > other files > > sytem utilities have little or no extended attribute support...at > > least the versions supported by Dapper (if I am wrong, > please correct > > me on this). > > I don't know. I haven't needed it myself, and I haven't seen any bug > reports about these issues. > > > By the way, I won't even mention Posix ACLs. > > Why? > > > What prompted my misguided bug report was a strange bug which I > > discovered the other day and this was the straw that broke > the camel's > > back. > > Have you filed a bug report about it? It's kind of hard to fix bugs we > don't know about. > > > I want a stable up-to-date Samba release > > Are you suggesting that "stable" and "up-to-date" don't exclude each > other? Or are you suggesting that 3.0.25c which is the current > "up-to-date" version of Samba is the end all and be all of Samba > releases, so we can just take that one and never again have to update > it? > > > Given the excellent relations we have already built up on > this thread, > > you will then agree to my request > > Possibly, yes. If I believe the fix is worth the risk for *all* the > other Dapper users out there, there's a good chance we'll backport it. > > > As quid-pro-quo, I will then publish my Ubuntu SBS setup on > the Ubuntu > > forum and hopefully save many others from similar aggravation. > > I can't say I much approve of your holding useful information hostage. > > > > Is anyone else interested in this? I'm not a coder (used > to be, but > > > got out of it a looong time ago) but I have had success in making > > > it work, and would be interested in sharing experiences, scripts, > > > config files and any other info as well as documentation. > > Jim, count me in but I think I've outstayed my welcome here so let's > > move to a new thread on the forum. > > Please keep in mind that most of us don't actively monitor the forums. > We have a wiki, a mailing list, an IRC channel, and Launchpad. > > > I will only move to desktop Linux when hardware support is > much better > > Have you filed bugs about your particular problems? > > -- > Soren Hansen > Ubuntu Server Team > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > -- > Samba Backport Urgently Needed > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137656 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- Samba Backport Urgently Needed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
