Dear Thomas Thank you very much for taking so much time to give me such a detailed account as to why you have decided to take the steps you have. I understand entirely.
I am very grateful. As a final point, might I suggest we modify the script such that it tells the user, "This computer does not appear to be connected to a network." [new line] "Would you still like to start MythTV?" If we were to do that, it would give the system enough time to sort things out such that the backend database was connected and MythTV was ready to function properly. It would also provide the user with: 1. An explanation as to why MythTV had not started. 2. The opportunity to connect a network cable or examine why the network was down and would allow them, if they wanted, to use MythTV without a network connection being present. If you need any help with this, my engineer-associates, who are much more learned than I, might be able to supply you with the script. If it would not be too much trouble could you give me some hints as to what I should explore to determine why MythTV seems to be unreliable in its scheduling? I have found that one can set the schedule to: "Record in this Timeslot Every Week" , and then go back sometime later and find that this has disappeared. I am reticent to declare this a bug because it could just be that I have not properly configured either the front or backend.... As the Americans say, "My Bad!" I have tried a number of things to get to the bottom of this. For example, I have exited out of the front end and then come back in to check if the schedule was still green. It usually is. I have shut down the PC and then restarted it. I find that the scheduled item is there when I return. But at some later time, for some unknown reason, it often disappears. As a further clue, some schedulings remain, as they should, set "forever". Once again thank you very much. I really do appreciate your giving me your time and advice as you have. Warm regards Kevin Loughrey CPEng Owner -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Mashos <1077...@bugs.launchpad.net> Reply-to: Bug 1077536 <1077...@bugs.launchpad.net> To: kev...@nvtech.com.au Subject: [Bug 1077536] Re: MythTV Backend Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead of Graphical User Interface Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:00:41 -0000 Kevin, The backend starts when any network interface that isn't lo is up (and the other conditions are met). This accounts for most user situations. We've made the decision to wait for networking to start because systems are becoming fast enough that they would finish starting before any networking was up, causing the backend to not listen on any external interface. You mention that people with more than one system are more experienced people. I disagree. With the number of devices in people's homes (tablets/phones/computers), it is more likely that someone will want to attach use one of these devices to access their MythTV system in some way (eg. third party frontend, remote control, etc). I don't believe that most of the new users you talk about would take their systems off network in order to watch tv. Most of those cases would be laptops, and those shouldn't be MythTV backends unless they are used for demonstration purposes (and IMO, anybody doing a MythTV demonstration should be one of the more experienced users you talk about and thus able to edit the upstart file). Now for those more experienced users, that have a system that needs to be off network (eg. they are giving a demonstration, they never put their system on a network), there is an easy way to configure what you are asking for (eg. removing the net- device-up requirement). Any changes made to this file don't get overwritten by the packaging. Now I'm more than willing to keep discussing this with you, but I can't think of a reason that we would change this. There are simply more reasons to keep it than revert the change. If you can give some solid reasons why we should revert the change and ignore all the users that needed that in the first place (there were a not insignificant amount of users that were having issues with the backend starting before networking), I'll certainly entertain the idea. Thanks, Thomas Mashos ** Attachment added: "NVTECH EMAIL BANNERHEAD 800X139.jpg" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077536/+attachment/3546980/+files/NVTECH%20EMAIL%20BANNERHEAD%20800X139.jpg -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077536 Title: MythTV Backend Configuration Application shows Terminal Screen instead of Graphical User Interface To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/1077536/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
