On 10/30/12 1:21 AM, Norbert Preining wrote:
> I told you, I am the one packaging, and also upstream developing.
> So don't deduce any wrong conclusions.
I know good reputation of you already.
> Did you read through the bug report, in full length?
> Most of the things you are saying have been stated before at lenght,
> and answered at length.
Yes, it pointed multiple flaws of TL 2009.
> Ahh, and for 3 years all those people never found the time to eve
> contribute *1* *ONE* line of code?
>
> You are a great believer!
You are a great non-believer.
> Because that is the fact. Simply. There is a reason why there is
> a feature freeze, and stable update procedure.
> A company installing XYZ on their computers don't necessarily care
> for the newest, but for stability. Introducing a big bunch of changes
> in the last minute is simply a no-go in software dev. If you don't know
> about soft ware dev, please trust us.
As I've done some development in the upstream side, it's really annoying
that distributions stuck with buggy old versions.
It's very good be careful doing upgrading. However, I've seen people
blindly afraid of any kinds of version upgrades even though some bugs
are already very clear. They encourage users to mess up with PPAs or try
not stable yet bleed edge version.
Regression risk should be mitigated by extensive testing, that's the way
most software evolves.
Don't forget the fact open source is particularly short at providing
long term support for multiple releases. How many upstream projects have
the energy and passion to support multiple releases?
> So - tell me - tell me *ONE* name who contributed anything?
> Ok, let us see, since you are sooo persistent bugger, let us go down
> to facts, simple facts.
I'm not begging you this time, thanks.
It's you that popped up unexpectedly.
> If you understand the following thing, then I guess you should
> know the answer to your question on how many have contributed:
> $ svn log ~/debian/svn/texlive2012 | grep '^r[0-9]' | awk -F\| '{print$2}'
> | sort | uniq -c
> 21 frank
> 11 hilmar-guest
> 332 preining
> 1 uwabami-guest
Thank you for your contribution.
Not related to current issue, though.
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