** Description changed: Whether 64-bit or i386, custom compiled or stock kernel, setup or actually in the distro, Ubuntu requires either noapic or pci=noacpi. That presents problems and trade-offs that don't make Ubuntu a viable option. Slackware works without the need to disable anything, and according to a Gentoo user on Linux on Laptops, neither does Gentoo. This is the working config I use in Slackware that I also used in Ubuntu: http://red.caek.org/2621-HP.config With the default parameters, Ubuntu will freeze as it loads GDM, so it hangs at a black screen. In single user mode, with apic enabled, it will still freeze. Without quiet nosplash it might hang at loading the drivers or it may hang later than that. If I disable apic, change xorg.conf to use the vesa driver, then boot normally, loading GDM no longer results in a black screen, it actually comes up and I can log in. However, it still freezes completely about a minute or two after. 'noapic' = Ok, the machine boots, everything works, except for USB. So adding irqpoll will fix the USB problem. 'noapic irqpoll' / 'noapic irqpoll noirqdebug' = Machine boots, but there doesn't seem to be any power management or cpu frequency scaling. The CPUs are constantly running at full speed. No battery detection, etc etc. 'pci=noacpi' = Big fat X11 error message trying to use the accelerated nVidia driver, a problem relating to edge-triggered IRQs. I'd like to stick with Slackware, but I need a distro with a package manager. I have some logs zipped up, including from Slackware, and lspci -vvvv from Slackware. I hope they're enough to go on. This is the computer: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00847924&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3340175&lang=en w/ latest BIOS - [code] + Currently I'm using Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 64-bit. The 32-bit build isn't + any different. + processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy ts fid vid ttp tm stc bogomips : 1608.35 clflush size : 64 processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy ts fid vid ttp tm stc bogomips : 1608.35 clflush size : 64 - [/code]
** Description changed: Whether 64-bit or i386, custom compiled or stock kernel, setup or actually in the distro, Ubuntu requires either noapic or pci=noacpi. That presents problems and trade-offs that don't make Ubuntu a viable option. Slackware works without the need to disable anything, and according to a Gentoo user on Linux on Laptops, neither does Gentoo. This is the working config I use in Slackware that I also used in Ubuntu: http://red.caek.org/2621-HP.config With the default parameters, Ubuntu will freeze as it loads GDM, so it hangs at a black screen. In single user mode, with apic enabled, it will still freeze. Without quiet nosplash it might hang at loading the drivers or it may hang later than that. If I disable apic, change xorg.conf to use the vesa driver, then boot normally, loading GDM no longer results in a black screen, it actually comes up and I can log in. However, it still freezes completely about a minute or two after. 'noapic' = Ok, the machine boots, everything works, except for USB. So adding irqpoll will fix the USB problem. 'noapic irqpoll' / 'noapic irqpoll noirqdebug' = Machine boots, but there doesn't seem to be any power management or cpu frequency scaling. The CPUs are constantly running at full speed. No battery detection, etc etc. 'pci=noacpi' = Big fat X11 error message trying to use the accelerated nVidia driver, a problem relating to edge-triggered IRQs. I'd like to stick with Slackware, but I need a distro with a package manager. I have some logs zipped up, including from Slackware, and lspci -vvvv from Slackware. I hope they're enough to go on. This is the computer: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00847924&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3340175&lang=en w/ latest BIOS - Currently I'm using Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 64-bit. The 32-bit build isn't - any different. + Currently I'm using Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 64-bit with 2.6.20-15 and + 2.6.20-16 kernels installs. The 32-bit build isn't any different. processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy ts fid vid ttp tm stc bogomips : 1608.35 clflush size : 64 processor : 1 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 15 model : 72 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56 stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 2 core id : 1 cpu cores : 2 fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8legacy ts fid vid ttp tm stc bogomips : 1608.35 clflush size : 64 -- Ubuntu only doesn't like apic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120648 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs