"Think of it this way: should a button NOT be shown because it's not
immediately clickable? "

Well . . . in this context . . . yes!  Afterall, this is the approach
that ubuntu developers took with the Global/Application Menu. The
current design of the scrollbar makes it difficult to gain control over
the Thumb. Appearance of the Thumb coinciding with clickability would
address this issue.

I disagree with you that it is a valid/useful reason for the Thumb
appearing even when not clickable solely "to tell people that option is
there." This is a case where the usability is hurt too much just "to
tell people that option is there." Therefore, people will just have to
learn that the Thumb only appears when clickable. Besides, once users
learn that, the necessity of communicating that the option is there is
removed. Again, same thing with the Global/Application Menu.

Considering the problem you faced with Rhythmbox, it's likely not
appropriate to put the Thumb inside unmaximized windows. I'm glad you
left your experience cause I have not experienced the problem you faced
so was not aware of it. And I do hate it when something pops up over
what I'm trying to do, so I share your grievance. However, I still think
bug 870714 would be a very useful improvement.

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  Ayatana-Scrollbar-Thumb should appear INSIDE unmaximized-windows

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