@mzc I agree. @faldegast: 1) Why would we market a kernel? 2) Running Ubuntu on scrap/old is not putting our best foot forward, and creates support issues. 3) For the server side, we have Ubuntu Server. 4) Ubuntu Software Centre is just that: a store for Ubuntu-compatible software. The extension of USC to non-Ubuntu platforms would be nightmarish in complexity.
On 10-10-22 10:37 AM, mzc wrote: > @faldegast. You are suggesting an approach that led to mandriva 's > downfall. > On Oct 22, 2010 10:26 AM, "Faldegast" <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: >> What i suggest for Ubuntu is the following: >> >> 1. A Ubuntu/Linux/Elf software store. It should be designed so that it >> can ship applications for many OS:es, not just Ubuntu. >> >> 2. A Ubuntu Pro commercial offering. Including boxed Ubuntu, a manual, >> and support. Also some commercial stuff like DVD player. >> >> Ubuntu currently has Fluendo Windows Media and MP3 Playback Pack, Fluendo > Complete Playback Pack and PowerDVD Linux in its online shop. These should > either be provided trough a software store, or included in "Ubuntu Pro". >> I would also see more commercial Linux applications there. For example i > know there is a Ubuntu version of Majesty. I know for sure that i would buy > that. >> 3. Both of above need a reseller plan. OEMs that preinstall a software >> store or Ubuntu Pro have to make money out of it. And Ubuntu pro should >> not be cheap. >> >> A software store and a commercial Linux with a distribution network is >> what we need. I am certain that this is exactly what we need. For >> servers we have RHEL but for clients the only thing available is >> Mandriva, but they effort to build a distribution network is to weak. >> They focus on an online store, and I believe thats their weakness. >> Operating Systems is OEM products and they are usually sold with >> computers, so we must target the OEM builders. >> >> While i have talked a lot about technology on this issue, technology is >> not a #1 bug issue. We have technology, what we need to fix bug #1 is >> marketing. >> >> There is no reason why Linux should have less usage share then OS X. >> Linux can run on much more hardware that OS X supports, and it have a >> great community. >> >> On another front, i think the idea of recycling old computers with >> Ubuntu and give them to those that cannot afford a brand new PC is >> excellent. I have done this a lot with lubuntu on really old computers. >> I also have a ThinLinc server that can be used to run applications that >> old computers are to weak to run. Its not fast enough for youtube, >> however they can play mpeg2. Perhaps an application like minitube can >> use a proxy server for transcoding to mpeg2 before a clip reach the old >> box? >> >> >>> Martin, >>> >>> True. Again i agree with that and i think we are in agreement again. So > the >>> various points people have made are valid except where we talk about > noobs >>> installing. >>> >>> >>> Surely a shop that installs to perhaps tens of machines has time to play > around >>> with even just 1 and has probably noticed all the quirkiness of > installing >>> Windows onto a wide range of very different machines and might realise > that >>> lack of knowledge might be the main barrier to a smoother install of > Ubuntu (or >>> other distro). Perhaps it is those people that we should target rather > than >>> normal users or people that do the odd one or two. Continuing to approach > both >>> is probably still best. >>> >>> Regards from >>> Tom :) >> -- >> Microsoft has a majority market share >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 >> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber >> of the bug. >> >> Status in Club Distro: Confirmed >> Status in Computer Science Ubuntu: Invalid >> Status in EasyPeasy Overview: Invalid >> Status in GNOME Screensaver: Won't Fix >> Status in Ichthux - Linux for Christians: Invalid >> Status in JAK LINUX: Invalid >> Status in The Linux OS Project: In Progress >> Status in The Metacity Window Manager: In Progress >> Status in The OpenOffice.org Suite: In Progress >> Status in Tabuntu: Invalid >> Status in A simple player to online TV streaming: Invalid >> Status in Tv-Player: New >> Status in Ubuntu: In Progress >> Status in “ubuntu-express” package in Ubuntu: Invalid >> Status in The Jaunty Jackalope: Invalid >> Status in “ubuntu-express” source package in Jaunty: Invalid >> Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Invalid >> Status in “linux” package in Debian: In Progress >> Status in Fluxbuntu: The Lightweight, Productive, Agile OS: Confirmed >> Status in openSUSE: In Progress >> Status in Tilix Linux: New >> >> Bug description: >> Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. >> This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. >> >> Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, > restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and > limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, > globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. >> Steps to repeat: >> >> 1. Visit a local PC store. >> >> What happens: >> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software > pre-installed. >> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. >> >> What should happen: >> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like > Ubuntu. >> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and > benefits would be apparent and known by all. >> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes. >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/clubdistro/+bug/1/+subscribe -- Microsoft has a majority market share https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
