On 2009-12-15 00:36, C de-Avillez wrote : > <SystemCleanup> > Some pout-pourri on previous comments: > >> There should *never* be a bare linefeed in SMTP transmission. >> Hence, if there is one, it *must* be a bug. >> > > I do not remember stating anything else. And, yes, I do know the > requirements in the RFCs. >
I never said that you stated anything else. What I'm saying is that there's no reason to try to prove we are facing a bug. The perfect proof of it is contained within one single file. Please send it where the bug will be fixed. >> It's *only* the developer's concern *where *that bare lf is. >> > > Pretty much all that *tried* to work with you are -- gasp! -- > developers. Still, you threw them all away. > Are you saying that bringing in a perfect bug report is throwing people away? In addition, I very calmly replied developers' unnecessary questions, like : > http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html <http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html> > does not show a dialog box. There shouldn't be a dialog box in D. J. Bernstein's explanation of what a bare linefeed is. > can you please give us a screenshot of the problem. I already sent you a screenshot in file Screenshot-Alert.png > Thunderbird is not listed http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html > <http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html> Are you asking me to ask D. J. Bernstein's to add it? > I do not see anything in any of the links that shows us your problem. It's not in a link, it's in the mdnmsg file (fourth time) and Screenshot-Alert.png etc... > >> As ma previous answer looks very ugly on site, I stored the html >> version html_answer.eml. > > Oh, you finally noticed, good. I thought, until now, that I was the only > one (and, probably, indeed, was). > Not my fault if the text version of my e-mail was stored instead of the html one. You may open a bug if you don't like what they're doing. > </SystemCleanup> > > Now, back to business. > > I did send an email with a MDN request to André, and -- guess what? -- I > got my MDN. As I very much expected, by the way. I was already > suspecting the UTF-8 encoding in the headers (of André's name) as the > cause but, unfortunately, André was unable to understand it. > Ah, and now *I* don't understand. That's the best yet ... It's seems that *you* are unable to understand what I have written in the bug's description : > We have now saved a developer 1 minute by telling that what he will > find in the mdnmsg file is that a bare linefeed occurs when an encoded > header line is split. We could lose a few more hours trying to find if > this occurs only to mdn messages, only to UTF encoding etc... but a > developer will make all these findings from the code right away. It's perfectly stupid to Say that "the UTF-8 encoding in the headers (of André's name)" is the cause of the following bare linefeed case > $ grep -P '[^\r]\n' mdnmsg3.eml | tee /dev/tty | hd > Subject: Return Receipt (displayed) - =?ISO-8859- > > 1?Q?Re:_WiFi_=28liaison_de_donn=E9es_par_radio=29_pou?= > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?r_Th=E9r=E8se,_3*20?= > First, that's not UTF-8 encoding but ISO-8859-1 and second, that's not my name in it but of my sister Thérèse. Moreover there's no hope in trying to tweak the Thunderbird I use if the e-mail was sent by the Apple Mail of my brother Paul. The message you sent me did not produce any error simply because none of its header line caused a Thunderbird error. If you send me a message like mdnmsg3.eml, it will produce one. I must confess that I'm tired of repeating such obvious statements. If you really want to send me such a message the only reliable way I can see is : 1) open an SMTP connection, 2) exchange the RFC822 dialog to send me e-mail 3) shove in enough of the header data from mdnmsg3.eml 4) send a null line 5) make a dummy body and end with a standalone dot 6) make sure to warn me with e-mail details, the past date will make it hidden in my MBOX *that* is garanteed to succeed. But again, that's time lost, as we know there is a bug and everything to find the code error is in mdnmsg. > Ah well. > > So now we know where it happens, and how to workaround the issue > meanwhile. I will even go ahead and test it on TB3, just for grins. > Yes, I have the feeling to know where it happens better than anyone. But no I don't know any workaround beside using Outlook Express to send some Return Receipts. Could you please share with us what your workaround is? What can I do to prevent Thunderbird sending a bare linefeed in the Subject line when someone sends me an e-mail as those contained in mdnmsg2.eml, mdnmsg3.eml and mdnmsg4.eml? André. -- Thunderbird's mdn (receipt) message may contain 822bis-violating bare lf which is rejected by Qmail https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/233990 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
