Everybody keeps saying that sliding notifications is wrong, but looking at the sample somebody else posted: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 I don't think its annoying or anything at all. I think it looks very nice. I think this would be the best way to solve this problem.
Groeten, David 2009/10/31 quatsch3000 <quatsch3...@web.de> > I would like to make a suggestion and consider the points that were > addressed by Marc. Main point for me is that notifications should appear > in a corner. And imo the notifications look quite misplaced currently. > Also I would rather not be able to see the window decoration for a > second than the window's content. For these two reasons I would prefer > another solution to the synch/asynch-problem. The differentiation into > sync and async notifies itself is not as bad as I thought in the > beginning, but still, placing the notifications so low as a consequence > just seems plain wrong. > > So my suggestion is (similar to Greg Nicholson's and others) to keep the > differentiation but place the synchronous notifications somewhere else > (e.g. centred on the screen, maybe even for a little shortened period) > while keeping the asynchronous notifications in the corner. (Yes, I > know, that might seem MAC-like to some but just because someone already > thought of it, does not automatically mean it's wrong.) Or, to get back > to the points, Marc made: > > "The factors that need to be considered are: > * fitting things into the corner is most aesthetically pleasing" > true. +1 > > " * the "synchronous" notifications [...] are fixed in size" > Okilidokili, they can appear centred and fade out after a second or so. > > " * the async notifications [...] are variable sized and can grow > vertically" > Shouldn't be a problem any more because the synchronous notifications are > out of the way > > " * sliding things around when something else grows is really bad, it is > unpredictable and frustrating for a user trying to look at the thing > that suddenly moves, so: > - synchronous should not be below async (so that it does not have to > slide down) > - the bottom right corner doesn't work (because then async has to grow > "upwards")" > Ok, so no movement of the notifications. Let's stick with the sequential > appear-disappear solution. Also as I said above: "Shouldn't be a problem any > more because the synchronous notifications are out of the way." > > " * the top right corner has a lot of stuff there - window decorations, > tabs, tab controls (new tab, close tab etc) and in many apps, a search > input. So even though the look-through and click-through is *cool*, it's > still better not to put async right into the top right corner" > That's where I disagree for three reasons: 1.) "fitting things into the > corner is most aesthetically pleasing", 2.) If I had to decide between > seeing the decoration and the window's content, I would always go for the > window's content. And 3.) If I really had to press a button (new tab or so) > in that exact second, I would have to move my cursor there anyway, thus > making the notification transparent. > > -- > Notifications should show up closer to top right > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/438536 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > > Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid > Status in Notify OSD: Triaged > Status in “notify-osd” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: notify-osd > > Currently the notify-osd notifications allot space for the volume > control/brightness semi-notifications; this is rather jarring when the > volume/brightness isn't being adjusted, unlike in Jaunty where application > notifications default to above the volume/brightness. > > ------------- > This is a design decision , any comments relating to the position can be > discussed in the ayatana Mailing list or you can follow the discussion > > http://www.mail-archive.com/ayat...@lists.launchpad.net/msg00741.html > > Any discussion regarding the position need to be discussed in the mailing > list. > -------------- > > Mark Shuttleworth's comments from the mailing list: > > "The position is final for 9.10 but can certainly be reconsidered for > Lucid. > > The factors that need to be considered are: > > * fitting things into the corner is most aesthetically pleasing > > * the "synchronous" notifications (like brightness and volume) are fixed > in size > > * the async notifications (IM's etc, things that happen elsewhere, not in > response to a keypress) are variable sized and can grow vertically > > * sliding things around when something else grows is really bad, it is > unpredictable and frustrating for a user trying to look at the thing > that suddenly moves, so: > - synchronous should not be below async (so that it does not have to > slide down) > - the bottom right corner doesn't work (because then async has to grow > "upwards") > > * the top right corner has a lot of stuff there - window decorations, > tabs, tab controls (new tab, close tab etc) and in many apps, a search > input. So even though the look-through and click-through is *cool*, it's > still better not to put async right into the top right corner > > For 9.10, two positions were considered and tried: > > In both cases, we put sync above and async below, to avoid sliding > problems. We put them on the right hand side of the screen, as that's a > less-used area. > > In the first case, we used the midpoint of the right side of the screen and > placed the notifications there, with sync above and async below. It seems > slightly odd to have them "hanging in space", but they conflict > with far less content there. This was the plan for 9.10. However, when it > landed, there were a lot of complaints saying that folks didn't like it "out > of a corner". > > As a compromise, we moved to plan b, which was to put them in the top > right, with sync above. That means that the common case, with async > notifications, appears to leave a "gap". But it also avoids the worst > overlaps with things like window and tab controls, and usually also the > search bar. > > That's where we settled for 9.10. For 10.04 I would like to revisit the > midpoint of the right hand side. I would not want to rehash old territory, > so please factor in the above in proposing new ideas. I'm of > the view that this decision involves at least one ugly compromise no matter > which way it goes, and am happy to make the call so far (i.e. happy to be > the one with the thick skin). > > If there is an implementation which avoids the issues and is sane, I'd love > to include it. > > Mark" > > -- Notifications should show up closer to top right https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/438536 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
