On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 02:48:32AM -0000, Geir Ove Myhr wrote:
> I know we can't expect a working Live CD at the start of a release
> cycle, but it would be nice to have an open bug report in launchpad
> when it doesn't work. This way eager testers may subscribe to that
> report and know when the Live CD is expected to work and start filing
> bug reports for real bugs. Would you consider this for Karmic or LL?

Well, of course we will often file bugs for our own reference, but to be
honest I don't think testers would find such reports any easier to find
than the current situation. They would typically be filed on packages
currently believed to be actually causing a problem, rather than on some
general "live CD" package (we don't want to have such a general "live
CD" package because it would end up being a real nightmare to handle
since everyone would file bugs on it any time they had any problem at
all with the live CD), and I wouldn't want testers to have to trawl the
entire bug database before getting started.

I *am* sensitive to the amount of time that eager testers put in and I
don't want them to waste their valuable time, neither by testing things
that we already know don't work nor by having to trawl through the bug
database before they even get started. I think the best policy, really,
is for testers to assume that the entire world is broken at the start of
a release cycle (which it often is; it sometimes turns out to be more
efficient for us to just drop in all the new code from Debian and then
fix it up as necessary, rather than being slow and careful at each
step), and to only start testing once the release manager or somebody
coordinating testing activities says it's worthwhile doing so.

We're usually reasonably clear about this through such channels as
iso.qa.ubuntu.com and #ubuntu-testing, I think; once you see a CD up for
testing at an early alpha, you can fairly safely assume that by then
it's received very basic smoke-testing and is not a complete waste of
time.

If there's anywhere where we're being unclear about this right now, I'd
like to know about it so that we can fix it up.

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Karmic desktop CD fails to boot because of different squashfs versions
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