On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 12:09 +0000, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> now back to the issue:
> - gvfs does mount the device and locks it indeed

Does it? Many/most of us get the -60 error, some of us get the -1 error
as well, and many/most of us can do nothing with the camera without
taking drastic steps (e.g., killall gvfs-gphoto2, chmod -x gvfs-gphoto2)

> - software wanting to use the camera should know about that and
>  gvfs-mount -u if required, f-spot and gthumb at least does it

Really? See previous comment (it don't work).

>  - if  somebody has an issue with a software could you open a bug
>  against  that software explaining what you do and how it fails so
>  those  softwares can be changed to do the right thing?

"If somebody has an issue with a software"....

With all due respect, Sebastien, these are the words of a cubicle-bound
coder and not the words of someone interested in assisting anyone other
than another developer. 

Most users - the vast majority who just want their computers to work
reliably and as expected - do not have the technical knowledge to make
the distinction you describe. They used to plug in their camera, it
worked. Now it doesn't.

For most users - the vast majority who just want their computers to work
reliably and as expected - the "software" in question is Ubuntu. That's
what they see. Sure, for debugging purposes this can be refined by
triagers or developers who know better, but that requires insight and
inside knowledge.

This is a valid report. If it is not a GVFS bug, then please, since you
know more about the inner goings on of the software involved, please
direct it elsewhere. If you need to know something specific to assist
you with that, then please ask for it.

If the bug as originally reported no longer exists, then please mark
this fix released, clarify why this report does not apply, and
respectfully request that a new report be opened.

Continuing to shut this down as "invalid" is simply a slap in the face
to the many people who have tried to contribute to this report.

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Ubuntu 8.10 can't mount digital camera  showing a window popup message: -60 
could not lock the device message
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/285682
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