This new feature is a slap in the face to users who have up until now have been following a well established model of notification. Ubuntu has been operating this way for years.
Now we file a bug report because for many of us, this IS a feature regression. The developers respond in a heavy handed manner saying that our concerns are not valid... another slap in the face. It sure feels like a battle. Do you simply not see the opposition here, or do you choose to ignore it? Why isn't such a drastic change in policy configurable by the user? You're writing software for users... aren't you? On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Alan Pope <a...@popey.com> wrote: > 2009/4/8 mac_v <drkv...@yahoo.com>: > > @Matthew >>> RIDICULOUS EXPLANATIONS <<< > > 1] seems to be a deliberate move... OK .. thts understood > > 2] & 3]not obvious???gratuitously difficult.????????? ARE U > KIDDING???????? > > > > Lets keep this calm and adult shall we. > > > the reasons we have road signs as symbols rather than instructions is > > since they are more obvious!!!just like icons over windows with text! > > > > I don't know about your region, but where I come from road signs are > rarely 24 pixels high! > > In addition in the UK we have a book full of them called the "Highway > Code" which is a lookup table of signs and their meanings, with a > couple of tests before you are allowed to drive alone. On the desktop > we don't have such a test, people can download and install Ubuntu with > nothing more than a CD or a web link. > > The update notifier icon is an orange splodge or red arrow that has no > metaphor. The battery icon looks like a battery, the network icons now > look a bit like network signal on the now ubiquitous cell phone, the > bluetooth icon is indeed a bluetooth icon. > > The update-notifier icon only means something once someone tells you > what it is. > > > OK seems that this battle is not going to be won by the users! > > > > This isn't a battle. It's a bug report. > > -- > [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New > Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed > Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix > > Bug description: > I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome > notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed > by: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html > > Specific messages worth reading are: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html > > Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is: > > * When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show > them (plus any other available updates) within a day. > > * When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and > show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last > opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates > were actually installed then). > > * When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open > automatically at all. > > Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the > entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently > understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use > it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update > notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, > perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than > use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended > functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the > thread. > > Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people > are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in > them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly > desirable, won't it? > > In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon > should be displayed when updates are available. > > To disable the new behaviour and get the old behaviour use: > > gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false > > Take into account that this gconf change is not supported. > -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
