if it is that easy to bring back the old behavior and make the icon appear again when updates are availble while keeping the new notification i think it should be done untill rethinking of the concept will be done
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 18:58 +0000, ddumont wrote: > While this will solve *my* problem... I still think it is a mistake in > general to annoy regular users with this new behaviour. More and more > people are finding out about this, how many people subscribing to this bug > will it take to force the developers' hands? > > I don't understand the problem with users not understanding what the update > icon looks like... if anything that signifies a failure at giving the user > sufficient visual queues to learn about the OS. For those people who HAVE > learned about the OS and DO recognize the update icon... they will miss it > and be upset... > > Why must you upset them... > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jonathan Davies < > jon.patrick.dav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Exactly what it do? It says seen that it will not launch automatically > > 'anything', but I would just > > > want the old notification behavior where it launch just the 'notification > > icon' near 'clock, etc.'. > > > > That's exactly what the command does, it changes the gconf settings for > > the update-notifier's auto launching to false - and this brings back the > > old behaviour of the icon. > > > > -- > > [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 > > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > > of the bug. > > > > Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New > > Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed > > Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix > > > > Bug description: > > I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome > > notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed > > by: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html > > > > Specific messages worth reading are: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html > > > > Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is: > > > > * When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show > > them (plus any other available updates) within a day. > > > > * When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and > > show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last > > opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates > > were actually installed then). > > > > * When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open > > automatically at all. > > > > Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the > > entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently > > understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use > > it for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update > > notification is now done by opening the entire update manager program, > > perhaps evolution and similar should open their application UIs rather than > > use the notification area. And there are concerns about unintended > > functional consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the > > thread. > > > > Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people > > are working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in > > them wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly > > desirable, won't it? > > > > In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon > > should be displayed when updates are available. > > > > -- > [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in Ubuntu Release Notes: New > Status in “update-notifier” source package in Ubuntu: Confirmed > Status in update-notifier in Ubuntu Jaunty: Won't Fix > > Bug description: > I am referring to the removal up the update-notifier in the Gnome > notification area. The discussion of it is embedded in the thread headed by: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027416.html > > Specific messages worth reading are: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027434.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027451.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027454.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027437.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027445.html > > Matthew Paul Thomas says that the desired behavior is: > > * When there are security updates, Update Manager will open and show > them (plus any other available updates) within a day. > > * When there are non-security updates, Update Manager will open and > show them *one week* after it was last opened (whether it was last > opened manually or automatically, and regardless of whether updates > were actually installed then). > > * When there are no available updates, Update Manager will not open > automatically at all. > > Desired by whom? And where was discussion of this change that effects the > entire Ubuntu community? Because some percentage of users don't apparently > understand that the notification area has meaning, we are not going to use it > for updates? Chow Loong Jin raised a valid point that if update notification > is now done by opening the entire update manager program, perhaps evolution > and similar should open their application UIs rather than use the > notification area. And there are concerns about unintended functional > consequences of this ill-conceived change, discussed in the thread. > > Personally, I predict that opening the Update Manager window while people are > working will piss off a lot of users when it happens, and may result in them > wanting to disable automatic checking. Yes, that'll be highly desirable, > won't it? > > In other words, this change should be corrected, and a notification icon > should be displayed when updates are available. -- [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332945 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
