Nothing like a healthy debate. But please let's keep it stylish,
informative and pleasant. There are some comments here that are not very
Ubuntu. Please take a breath, and pour some water on any flames you're
about to throw. They don't help.
Now, some folks are saying "why wasn't I consulted about this change?".
But think about this. You probably weren't directly consulted on a
million other changes that make up this release. Most of those came from
upstream, some came from Debian, and many were made right here in
Ubuntu. We have a lot of very public, open, participative forums, but
nobody can be in every forum, on every thread, in every meeting, on
every channel. The fact that there is a change here that surprises you
isn't grounds for shouting out that the change itself was made in bad
faith.
Also, the fact that this change was driven by a team at Canonical
(including me) is no reason for conspiracy theories or abuse. Canonical
drives a huge amount of changes, mostly in proportion to the person-
hours contributed, but we invest Ubuntu alongside the rest of the
community, and we work hard at making that relationship a success. I've
personally spent quite a lot sponsoring some of the people who are most
vocally upset here, to come to UDS's, so I'm not all that sympathetic to
them saying that Canonical doesn't make an effort to hear their voices.
Now, on this specific issue.
We have good usability information that says that notification areas are
swamps. They are swamps on Windows, and swamps in all the Linux
distributions. They inevitably become dumping grounds for "things that
don't fit". Users dislike them, and application vendors abuse them. Most
of all, average users don't understand the majority of the information
that is presented there, because it's all inconsistent and often
arbitrary. We want Ubuntu to be better than that. So we have been
studying the panel indicators and trying to figure out what we can do to
make it better.
Now, this is highly sensitive stuff. People who DO understand something
there, are often very attached to it, because it's very visible. We're
going to cause a lot of ruptions, and we might get the odd thing wrong.
But, we're not afraid of making bold moves. Ubuntu itself was a bold
move, and has attracted a fair amount of criticism for its very
existence, but that didn't stop us. If we want to transform the Linux
desktop from where it is today, to something that Apple will feel
obliged to emulate in parts, we are going to have to make bold moves and
big changes, and those will cause distress. If we're right, the result
will be fantastic, and the changes will be embraced by other
distributions and upstream. If we're wrong, they won't.
We are focusing our design and user experience attention on the elements
of the experience that span multiple applications. Notifications, and
the notification area, are two such elements. We developed a framework
for "how applications engage with the user when they don't have the
focus". We tested those ideas, and we think they are worth taking some
risks to achieve. MPT documented that conceptual framework, it was
discussed, and now we are getting down to work.
Back to the notification area. If we're going to clean up the panel and
the notification area, we should start with the system pieces. Those
include the restart-required icon, and the updates-available icon. So
those are gone in 9.04. There are ways for experts to have that
functionality if they want it. Most of the folks on this bug are
squarely in the expert group, and I won't be offended at all if you
decide to have those icons in your notification area. But I do think
that the approach we are taking is better to spread the arms of the
community open even wider, and draw in folks who are experts in a
million things OTHER than code, translations, and open source project
matters. Our friends and family.
I'll ask you all to be excellent to each other. This bug is no place for
name-calling and slander. Everyone here, including those most upset, and
including me and the others on the team that are driving these changes,
devotes our lives to the same cause: getting free software everywhere.
Treating each other poorly is a step backwards.
** Changed in: update-notifier (Ubuntu Jaunty)
Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix
** Summary changed:
- [Jaunty] Removal of Update Notifier is WRONG
+ [Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
** Changed in: ubuntu-release-notes
Importance: Undecided => Low
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[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information
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