i did...

# start with serial log and tee it in a log file
NM_SERIAL_DEBUG=1 NetworkManager --no-daemon 2>&1 | tee /tmp/nm-serial.txt
added some logs for a sample... nm_wpa_log is the output from this..
to reproduce, I just startup network manager and it doesn't work, regardless of 
iface.
it's an intel chipset, and connecting manually with copper at least, works 
fine. so it's now hw.


** Attachment added: "nm-serial_wpa.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/22948284/nm-serial_wpa.txt

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network manager broken
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/332407
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