Hi Florian,
Thanks for being patient with me.
I agree with you that being standards compliant is not a bug in
itself, and that standards compliance is generally a good thing.
Honestly, I'm not taking issue with the applet not running. The page was
written with incorrect code, so according to RFC, its behaviour was
justified.
The issue that I'm having, and the reason why I reported a bug in
the first place, is that behaviour that works flawlessly in both
internet explorer and firefox (I just tested this again to confirm),
using a cross platform language (java) in a cross platform webbrowser
(firefox), in windows, works not at all in Ubuntu Linux. I'm not saying
that this specific example any one is to blame really. What I am saying
is that complicated behaviour (Loading a java applet is complicated, any
way you want to look at it) that works fine in one operating system that
claims to support the behaviour, does not work at all in another
environment that also claims to support the behaviour.
I cant tell you if its an issue with Firefox, java, or something
even unrelated. I am a software person, but I'm pretending to be a dumb
user on this. I have familiarity in Windows, and Ubuntu, something that
I know works in Windows, doesn't work in Ubuntu... even though
operations that I consider to be effectively identical (note the second
working applet I linked) does work perfectly in Linux and Windows both.
I specifically submitted this bug report to the Ubuntu distribution
of launchpad because I personally experienced this problem while using
Ubuntu. I can't say if other students who were using a linux
distribution other than Ubuntu encountered this same problem, though I
know there are students who use other Distributions. The fact is that no
one from another distribution said anything, thus I assume that the
problem exists only in Ubuntu for now. Thats not to say that it does not
exist outside Ubuntu, just that I cannot confirm or refute that, so I
won't make the assumption.
Honestly, my basic argument is that from a "dumb" user standpoint, a
webpage that works on Windows, does not work on Linux, even though all
of the necessary software is installed. Firefox is supported by Ubuntu,
and is included by default as the default GDM browser. The java browser
plugin is installable via add and remove programs.
Somewhere in this situation is a bug. Is it a bug in java for
windows? maybe. is it a bug in firefox for windows? maybe. Java for
Ubuntu? maybe, Firefox for Ubuntu? maybe. I don't know... I don't know
enough about the various components to find the actual problem. Thats
why I submitted the ticket. I saw a problem, and don't know how to fix
it.
Thanks again for working through this with me, I appreciate it a lot.
-Mike
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Java applet works in windows, not in linux.
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