In the "other" case, dmesg says:

[   69.810973] iwlagn: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link AGN driver for Linux, 
1.3.27ks
[   69.811108] iwlagn: Copyright(c) 2003-2008 Intel Corporation
[   69.811328] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[   69.811465] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
[   69.811515] iwlagn: Detected Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN REV=0x4
[   69.851960] iwlagn: Tunable channels: 11 802.11bg, 13 802.11a channels
[   69.852396] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[   69.852799] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'
[   91.062785] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[   91.063040] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: restoring config space at offset 0x1 (was 
0x40100102, writing 0x40100106)
[   91.063520] firmware: requesting lbm-iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode
[   91.189469] iwlagn loaded firmware version 228.57.2.23
[   95.188032] iwlagn: START_ALIVE timeout after 4000ms.
[   95.188116] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled
[   95.203320] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[   95.203467] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: restoring config space at offset 0x1 (was 
0x100102, writing 0x40100106)
[   99.208095] iwlagn: START_ALIVE timeout after 4000ms.
[   99.208178] iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: PCI INT A disabled

And lshw says:
  *-network DISABLED
       description: Wireless interface
       product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 0
       bus info: p...@0000:03:00.0
       logical name: wmaster0
       version: 61
       serial: 00:1d:e0:00:89:5b
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: cap_list logical ethernet physical wireless
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn latency=0 module=iwlagn 
multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn

:-Dustin

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