OK, thanks for all the help, i havn't a clue what i have been doing nuts and bolts wise, but i did screw it up a few times process and order of operation wise, hope that didnt make the syslog too long.
** Attachment added: "syslog" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20014582/syslog -- Network Manager: segfault error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/301180 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs