Thanks IanW for the questions.
Would it be possible to put in place a procedure for admins to ask questions to 
help diagnosis, when a bug is marked incomplete - These kind of questions are 
very helpful to have early?

It's a few days since the last similar event, but it will probably
happen within the next week - I will try to drive to fail this way
again.

1) I don't recall many situations recently when the computer has become
totally hung, without there being an update icon present on reboot.
Firefox usually has a number of windows open, with a number of tabs in
each window. So I am not "absolutely certain" that it is totally due to
the updater, but there is not much chance that the problem is
"unrelated" to the updater.

Q1) What should I be looking for in Syslog?

re "Does this ONLY happen when update-notifier is downloading?"
Firefox can slow the system down when lots of windows and tabs are open, and 
speed can be restored by closing a few tabs. But the system doesn't hang with 
firefox to the extent that there is "no control" - it just might be that the 
mouse response become intermittent. 
The system hang becomes unresponsive when there is no update icon showing - but 
the icon show on reboot. This suggests that the updater did not get as far as 
showing the icon before it hung the system.
So the issue is not just  "ONLY happen when update-notifier is downloading" but 
also if it has actually begun "Downloading", or was just about to beging 
downloading, having been notified that downloads were available.

re "can it be reproduced by running Synaptic or 'sudo apt-get -d upgrade'?"
it's a while since I did some synaptic "add programs" with many firefox windows 
open, but I do recall there being some crashes if there were lots of firefox 
windows open. 

I could check if the crash could be avoided by disabling the update-
notifier, but I think I'll do that after the next (forced) crash, so I
can collect syslog data after the crash.


2) The system become totally unresponsive - mouse cursor does not move at all. 
Keyboard does nothing.

Q2) How do I restart X without mouse or keyboard control?


3) I will track memory usage. Is there a recommended program - I'd like to keep 
a log of the last 7 days on memory usage at 30 minute intervals, and the last 5 
hours at 5 minute intervals?

Thanks for your help.
I hope these answers are helpful.
And soon hope to be able to provide syslog info, top, and memory usage info.

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