> It is certainly possible to have a free service. Look at the Affero > General Public License. That deals with services. You could say that > those are free services.
Errr... ?! The licence clearly says: 'Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License,...' and '...and the output from the Program is covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the Program...' And, as any other license, it's about software, not a service. You can have GPL software on your computer, but your service, based on it, can be non-free. Output of AGPL-ed software (aka service) can be non-free - it's simple, AGPL doesn't cover services. And, at last, how much are Affero's terms of use different that those from Mozilla (except that are much, much bigger and difficult to read)? http://www.affero.com/ctos.html > The problem is that "free service" is not very much defined. What > makes something a free service? Apparently, the AGPL does. But is > that the only free "web services license"? Are Terms of Service > allowed in a free service? Free service doesn't have anything to do with free software. Those are two totally different things. > TCP, IP, FTP, SSL - these are all open standards. These are not > "services" but rather communication protocols. > > None of those services require that you either assent to their terms, > or else disable them. There are no "end user terms of use" for these > protocols (AFAIK). I wasn't talking about TCP. I said that TCP package you generate goes from your computer and uses services of your ISP (like routing, maybe NAT-ing, etc...) which are based on probably non-free hardware and non-free hardware's operating system. I don't see any difference between asking my ISP non-free router's operating system where should my data go and asking non-free Google/Mozilla if some website is 'phishing'. You can, as with FTP, implement this on any project/browser (http://code.google.com/apis/safebrowsing/). IMHO, definition of free service is very much like open standard/protocol. If I can use some service and share data collected using that service, without restrictions, that's an open service. Having service served by open source software, but not having rights to share collected data is obviously non-free service. But even that can't always be true... Note: I'll not respond to any responses cause this bug report isn't the right place to have this type of conversation. -- AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
