Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting, if you
ask me.
It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were all
successful.
Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
Brussels is the best.
Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.



On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <merlijn.sebrec...@gmail.com> wrote:

> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If somebody
> can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next week.
> Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
> cc) same as aa)
> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a sip
> server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has
> excellent Ubuntu support.
>
>
>
> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
>
>
>
>
> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <kawab...@telenet.be>:
>
>  Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
>>
>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it is
>> us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear
>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and
>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved
>> and able to help.
>>
>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no
>> clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at
>> least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the
>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe
>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video
>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace,
>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie.
>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
>> gathering date already)?
>>
>>
>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan
>> ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved
>> including this chap
>>  2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed make
>> it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda showing
>> the local activities for example
>>  3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't
>> really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and
>> that is UP TO DATE information
>>
>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account
>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and
>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again.
>>
>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good
>> if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we
>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
>>
>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and strengthened.
>> I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is starting to use
>> Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge
>> potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could get our
>> purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to
>> sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to now. I
>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have a  wide enough network of
>> enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into
>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm
>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation
>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is
>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have
>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me
>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way
>> to help and show a kind of gratitude.
>>
>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this
>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going.
>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot
>> pick up;
>>     a) kawabill
>>     b) nero
>>     c) Frank Neirynck
>>     d) Tom Verlinden
>>     e) Jan Bongaerts
>>     f) Merlijn Sebrechts
>>     g) Alain Daudrez
>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
>> 4) Temporary fix;
>>     aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
>>     bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can pick
>> up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to the
>> old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such that
>> we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
>>     cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow for
>> updated information (whom can take action and when?)
>>     dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I can
>> come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
>>     ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can use
>> Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for
>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the
>> technical side of it all, Nero???)
>>
>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need
>> please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal,
>> I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating.
>>
>> Your comments please?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain
>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't
>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading,
>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does
>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it
>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be
>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said.
>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess.
>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
>> >:
>>
>>>  Tom,
>>>
>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually
>>> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these
>>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what
>>> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever
>>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc...
>>>
>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will
>>> quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you
>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be
>>> doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure
>>> called "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical
>>> stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content,
>>> etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
>>>
>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is
>>> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here
>>> will be able to tell you more details on this.
>>>
>>> Grtz,
>>> Jurgen.
>>>
>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be could
>>> be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a
>>> fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you get
>>> the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman imho.
>>> Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble opinion,
>>> to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could get
>>> more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk
>>> about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, give support
>>> where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu.
>>> Woot!!)
>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little
>>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen
>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that
>>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do
>>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something
>>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear
>>> your opinion). My 2 cents....
>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <kawab...@telenet.be>:
>>>
>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community,
>>>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I
>>>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page;
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
>>>>
>>>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it
>>>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still
>>>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is
>>>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated.
>>>>
>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't
>>>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux
>>>> camp.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong
>>>> and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu 
>>>> community?
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>> Bill
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