Hold your horses Wouter. You clearly completely misunderstood my message. I do give a *** about the work any and all of you do. I thought it was obvious I was talking about spammers. To clarify again: when someone spams the ML, I don't give a *** about what they do for the community. It's spam, and spam should be fought by any means.
On Friday, 21 December 2012, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote: > I personally felt offended by the sheer lack of Ubuntu/humanity in the > responses that followed. > If one states that he didn't *"give a *** what anyone (corporate or > individual) has done for anyone/anything"* than that means he doesn't > care about any of the work I and others have put in to it. I find that > offensive and take it as a slap in the face. > > It shows of a lack of empathy, dignity and respect to others who might or > might not put more time and effort to things than that person him- or > herself. Although I would have taken it this way regardless of whom it came > from, I feel even more offended because it came from somebody who signed > the code of conduct! A code that starts with following words: > > *Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself > captures the spirit of being human.* > A code that explicitly states that at all times you should be > respectful. One that states that disagreement is no excuse for poor > manners. One that states that you have to take responsibility for your > words and actions. > > I find myself today, struggling to keep believing that any work done here > is appreciated or even considered to be of any value. > > And with this rant and words that might mean more to some than others I > leave you > > Have a nice day all, who knows it might be our last. > > Regards > > > Wouter Vandenneucker > > 2012/12/21 Jurgen Gaeremyn <jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be> > > Well, > > I didn't consider the initial answer as spam - I did take it as a rather > weak answer in the sense that there's no further help than only offering to > make a sale. > > I was hoping to get feedback in the sense of: "I'm using *blabla* on my > computer and *bla* on my Android device and it all works fine doing these > steps: *blablabla*" Or even: "Buy this device: *SomeDevice*, it contains > drivers for ubuntu" In extremis it could be: "let me google this for you: > *keyword 1* *keyword 2* ..." > > Obviously, if the solution you're offering is something you developed > in-house, and thus only offer to your customers... that's also an option, > and then the shop is he place to be. > > Well... but as disappointing as the answer was... the answer "spammer" > didn't help me any further either. > > Grtz, > Jurgen > > > On 21-12-12 13:25, tom verlinden wrote: > > Is there a "code of conduct", guidelines, on how to approach things > like this? > What i'm trying to say is, what if you know a good link/shop/space that > can help you? > What would be the appropriate action to take? > > Needless to say i too disagree with spamming any list, but it's something > i was asking myself just yet... > > > 2012/12/21 martijn cielen <mcie...@gmail.com> > > Jan, > > frankly I don't give a *** what anyone (corporate or individual) has > done for anyone/anything when they abuse a mailing list to spam. > When I send messages to this list, I use my personal address, and not my > commercial one. Ideally, others should do the same. > > Martijn > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Jan Bongaerts <jbongae...@gmail.com>wrote: > > Easy now! > Silent Computers has done more for ubuntu-be than most. > > > 2012/12/20 martijn cielen <mcie...@gmail.com> > > spammer > > 2012/12/20 Lesia Valèri <lesiaval...@gmail.com> > > > > Hi, > daar is de Silent computers' shop voor! > Stuurt die dame naar ons toe, wij zullen wel beste oplossing voor vi > >
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