I didn't enjoy reading certain sarcasms in that log. I think a certain somebody could also do with reading this<http://www.askdavetaylor.com/whats_a_micromanager.html>article - (micromanagement) ;
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:29 PM, IKT <noname...@gmail.com> wrote: > Heya Andre, > > > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer > my services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service > system) but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006). > > Does anyone have a link to this in the mailing list archives? I'm > interested in which expertise and how they can be applied to the team. > > > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no > administration, no cohesion. > > That's not necessarily a bad thing, I am a member of the ubuntu > beginners team and recently there was a lot of structure and > administration introduced, and quite a few members have since felt the > team has changed radically from its original goals and left. > > In my opinion we have a very (very) fine line for these sorts of teams > between being generally a social group that attempts to spread the > word where it can and a bureaucratic mess. > > > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous > if you wish to what follows. > > Not to take away from the loco but on the ubuntuforums and launchpad > would love your help! As was quoted to me recently there's about 500 > bugs for every 1 developer, and a lot of those are duplicates, me and > kermaic are both apart of the 5 a day team > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day) but you don't have to go that far, > even just answering a couple posts in ABT would be enough to warrant > joining (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam) > > So your help is definitely wanted, it's just directing it in the right > area, in regards to directing your help specifically at this loco: > > > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team? Waving a stick > pretending to be the moral guardian is not sufficient. > > What exactly do you expect to happen? Remembering we do have the issue > of being a country wide loco. > > - David/IKT > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Andre Mangan <andreman...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hello Andrew, > > > > I hope that this is the right place to offload some of my frustrations. > Like you I also have a family life and I am able to sacrifice limited time > to Ubuntu. I have been quite active in the Ubuntu Forums, Launchpad and > LinuxQuestions until I could no longer afford the time to devote myself to > answering questions relating to the Ubuntu operating system and as a > consequence have withdrawn considerably (I have many other things to do). > > > > When I first decided to use Ubuntu as "my" operating system, I did offer > my services (expertise gained after many years in the NSW Public Service > system) but my offer was ignored (that was in 2006). > > > > Attempts to make contact with the local Linux User Group resulted in no > reply as did a letter to Linux Australia relating to the local Linux user > group. > > > > Discouragement at every step. > > > > I learnt how to find my own solutions and survived. I must acknowledge > the support of a few Ubuntu friendlies and new friends that made my path > bearable. > > > > All the above may be of no interest to anyone - consider it as gratuitous > if you wish to what follows. > > > > Thank you for posting the meeting log. How disappointing that the > governance issue was not raised. It is really important. > > > > I rise with the sun and go to bed soon after it sinks, hence my absence > from the meeting - 9 p.m., in my opinion, is for those who have nothing else > to do or are waiting for something to happen to justify their insomnia...but > then I might just be one of the old-timer Australians with a different set > of values. > > > > Reading the meeting summary, it seems to me that the meeting was largely > a meaningless fiasco - and who appointed Scott Evans as a moderator (not > that I have anything against him)? > > > > Where is the leadership for the Australian Team? Waving a stick > pretending to be the moral guardian is not sufficient. > > > > There are so many willing people but no-one to harness all this energy. > > > > There is something seriously amiss here - e.g. no structure, no > administration, no cohesion. > > > > Please repair as soon as you can. If I can help, count me in. > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 16 March 2010 16:58, AndrewG <gande...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Here is the log file for last nights meeting, for anybody that missed > >> it. > >> Ubuntu-au governance was not talked about. > >> > >> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2010/03/15/%23ubuntu-au.html > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-au mailing list > >> ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-au mailing list > > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au > > > > -- > ubuntu-au mailing list > ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au >
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