> On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 12:19 +0300, SorinN wrote: > > 1. What I can see ? - finally an other scrollbar design - (as I > > proposed in the past). For the rest we have Aurora M1, Aurora > > Borealis, Orion Aurora, Dark Aurora ...etc. > > Nothing 'kinky' on this theme (that's good). Pretty bad is dark - but > > at least is simple, clean, clear. > > 2. You should put triangle arrows on scrollbar - actual V lines are > > not so visible. > > 3. Pretty but - just pretty look - no too much original (read Ubuntu > > distinctive elements). > > 4. Ken, you must be jokin'.... > > > > > > 2008/8/18 Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Andrew Wood > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a big fan of this very clean and modern looking. > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:31 -0700, Brian wrote: > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/DustTheme > > > > > > Has anyone opened this for discussion? > > > I think it's a very good mockup, and doesn't look > > like it'd take that > > > much work to get a working mockup from it at least. > > > Throw in some orange highlights here and there, and > > I think this would > > > be absolutely perfect. [: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > > > I actually gasped aloud (to the cause of great mockery on my > > part) when I saw this. > > > > This is the GTK look, the frame blends beautifully, I just > > have no words. This mockup has caused me to scrap my current > > design for Kin Piano, and I'm going to use this as a template > > for anything I do further, but this remarkable theme, in my > > humble opinion, is it. I dont know if I can do better, because > > this is always what I've been trying to aim for, in sheer > > cleansliness and polish. > > > > Excellent, Excellent work. > > > > -- > > -Ken Vermette > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nemes Ioan Sorin > > > Whether his is joking or not that theme is really good. > It may not look ubuntuish but the icon set will surely be > orange so I don't think thats a problem. > Or maybe instead of black it could be a dark brown chocolate color > like in Kin Piano.mmmmm > > > please stop top-posting.
Indeed, it is a beautiful theme. (I commented on the wiki page there). I would like to add that I, too, thought "this is the one! Everyone stop what you're doing!" the moment I laid eyes on it. (Trouble is, I was at work, so it took out all my day's energy trying not to yell it aloud). Ken, I thought it seemed quite a bit like Kin Piano, too, so I was secretly hoping for you to do this. Kudos for being a team player, and good luck! Various dissers: Care to explain why you don't like this mockup so others can improve it? This is the art mailing list, not a poll, so even something like "I don't think black is the right direction" would be of use ;) Note the comments pointing out that the icon set is unintentional, and just a leftover from painting on top of a desktop screenshot. Not a fan of the Firefox mockup, but that is of course another thing entirely. My trouble with Firefox's mockup is that it takes a completely different design for tabs and for buttons, so something that should at least LOOK desktop integrated becomes a jarringly detached presence. In this case, its interface is too visible. The Nautilus mockup, on the other hand, is a gorgeous bit of interface design for the Spatial mode. Someone should cut that out and bump it over to the Nautilus team. What I like here is that it remembers something critically important: Less is more. ESPECIALLY with a theme. The aim here is to create a more open ended, rigid desktop feel; the look is coloured by the user's background image and the contents of the windows, instead of by the frilly borders around buttons. The same thing is seen with the current unfortunate Empathy vs. Pidgin debate. A lot of people say "Empathy's interface is not good" but fail to identify what it needs. Or they say that Empathy's Preferences are too simple. Fact is, Empathy doesn't /need/ anything more -- and neither should Pidgin have. It's an instant messaging client, not rocket science! With Empathy, we see straight through to people and our messages. It's quite nice. I like that this mockup translates into a theme with absolutely minimum fiddling. The widgets do not rely too heavily on each other, for example to end shadows or continue gradients. They are generally self-contained, so this won't be broken by programs that put their toolbars or menu bars in weird places. In addition, this does not rely on fancy, out of reach compositing effects; there is not a single transparent window in that screenshot (except the panels, which are... special). The borderless windows necessitate shadows, but I think Metacity's compositing is shaping up well enough that we can ignore the issue. (Case in point: I had it running under Debian on my Nokia N810. Slowly, but running). If necessary, a 2px black border isn't too much of a loss. Thus is slightly Macish, but really only in that it follows the right trend in theme design. (That is: Not the Vista one). OSX is very unique right now, in that its theme is the only one designed to stay out of the way; people only really notice the theme if it is all that's there. Otherwise, one sees straight through to what he is working on. His perception of colours, the presence of what the user is working on and his focus is not limited at all by the window border. This is how it should be. Because there is (for some bizarre reason) nothing else really like the OSX theme, anything following that 'stay out of the way' trend is voted down for "looking like OSX". Indeed, OSX marks a particular /kind/ of theme, just as Vista marked the usability-hell transparent windows (which people have no problem poorly duplicating until their eyes peel out) and earlier Windows gave us the colourful title bars. To say this can't be done because it follows a trend set on by another group of developers smells like NIH syndrome. Not Invented Here is something quite common in Redmond and we can attribute to it the spaghetti-like state of web standards, among other things. This also feels a lot like that recent Ubuntu mockup (the wooden table one -- any DailyWTF readers here? :P) which it seems everyone has been screaming excitedly about. Bye, -Dylan
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