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2007/11/23, Andreas Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi Sylvain! > Can you turn off the caps-button please? > Your e-mails are making me nervous. :) > - Andreas > > > sylvain marc skrev: > > SORRY IF MY FIRTS POST IS TOO BIG - I TRY TO CANCEL IT LIKE IT WAS > > EXPLAIN HERE : > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/confirm/ubuntu-art/937276445103c0ebf02ae929dedb62b826c82c69 > > ...... > > I LIKE http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Minimal-perception-67892707 > > AND http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034 > > AND I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO MAKE A MIX OF THE THEMES LIKE I > > EXPLAIN IT IN MY DOCUMENT I POST YESTERDAY) : ORANGE-LINSTABLACKPLASIC > > / CRUX / MINT / GLOSSY-GLASS / > > > > Sam7 (Sylvain) > > > > 2007/11/22, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Seeing as Kenneth says that this is the time to suggest ideas to be > > taken in to account when the final artwork direction is decided I > > would like to start some discussion of the merits of using a matte > > theme (with small glossy elements/highlights) for the next release > of > > Ubuntu > > > > I'd love anyone who has ideas on why this is a good or bad idea to > > chime in. I'll list a few of my own to get discussion started > > > > I'm suggesting it, so I'll list why I think it's a good idea to go > > mainly matte. > > > > Problems with Glossyness: > > 1. It's been DONE (by Ubuntu and by everyone else) > > --- Shiny themes have been done and are everywhere now. Ubuntu's > > design wants to STAND OUT, and we want to make a new chapter in > > Ubuntu's design! OsX used to be king of gloss, but in Leopard we see > > Apple shifting away from it (but admittedly not quite being able to > > let go). > > > > 2. It's DISTRACTING > > --- Shinnyness is _distracting_ from the what you are working on. > > GNOME is designed not to get in your way while you do your work, but > > shinny things that cry out for your attention minimise it's > > effectiveness in doing this > > > > 3. It's not (very) TANGO Compliant > > --- Tango guidelines ask only for things that are glossy in real > life > > to be glossy. Given that more and more applications are adopting > > Tango > > icons we are giving ourselves a much larger job if we create a theme > > that Tango doesn't fit in to, because for total consistency we have > to > > re-theme all the applications. > > > > 4. It feels LESS REALISTIC > > --- As Tango guidelines point out, real surfaces are rarely > glossy... > > Using icons that represent real objects helps people intuitively use > > applications and understand icons, adding gloss somewhat detracts > from > > this. It leads to 'cartoon' design in many cases. > > > > Nice things about matte themes > > 1. They can be SOFTER > > --- contrast in a matte theme can be lower, so the whole set of > > widgets is easier to look at ('easier on the eyes'). It makes the > > interface feel more human, to me... > > > > 2. BROWN and Matte > Brown and glossy > > --- One of the contradictions in Ubuntu UI policy seems to be the > > difficulty of brown vs orange. One of the reasons we have this is > > becasue brown does not look good glossy, and orange does! If > > Ubuntu is > > going to stay brown using a matte theme allows the designers more > > scope and allows for greater colour consistency. Brown isn't a very > > glossy colour > > > > 3. Textures are often matte > > -- Elephants, for example ;) > > > > > > There are some really original ones around (yes, so I'm sure there > are > > orignal glossy ones around too, please post them if you find them :) > > > > After some trawling, here we go > > Just the _buttons_ on this theme are beautiful: > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora+Sand?content=69773 > > Someone called 'Lyrae' has a whole host of similar (awesome and > > original) matte/square themes: > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Reuben?content=55876 > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nova?content=57310 > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Fawn?content=58426 > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Calla?content=52297 > > > > This 'wooden' is kind cool > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034 > > <http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Muku+GTK?content=59034> > > > > So is the Clearlooks theme from Breezy > > > http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg > > < > http://www.phoronix.net/image.php?id=218&image=ubuntu_breezyc2_14_lrg> > > > > Nodoka, is a nice theme engine to use > > > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nodoka+GTK%2B+Engine?content=64604 > > > > So, let's have a discussion about it - what do people think? > > > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art> > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >
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