Hi,
also to exclude sound problems in the
pty pts/0 console one can test it by running in in it:
speaker-test -c 1
If everything fine You should hear some noise.
Best regards
Volodymyr
On 2/13/23 06:39, Jude DaShiell wrote:
In orca if you go into terminal then temporarily turn orca off then do:
spd-say "Hello World!\n"
Do you get any speech?
If yes, turn orca back on then run spd-conf in that user terminal.
You want a new configuration and you want a user configuration.
One of the choices on the next prompts should be for espeak-ng.
take that choice.
alsa should be another choice to take.
Then test everything and see what comes back
I think what's going on is speech-dispatcher thinks you only have orca
running on your system and doesn't yet know about espeak-ng.
There may also be a connector package espeak-ng needs so it can work.
Some users don't like linux installing dependency packages and if you are
one of them you could have got yourself into this kind of trouble if the
connector package wasn't installed.
Probably by tomorrow I'll be getting one or more answers back from the
speakup list in which case we'll get this sorted out for you.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
modprobe: FATAL: Module speakup.speakup_soft not found in directory
/lib/modules/5.15.0-60-generic
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 7:54 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try modprobe speakup.speakup_soft see if you get an error then.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Modprobe speakup_soft gives no output [no news is good news]
Still no speech, insmod still fails
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 6:21 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
First try modprobe speakup_soft. If you don't get speech, could be
insmod speakup_soft works. If insmod gives no errors and you get no
speech after that, try modprobe speakup_soft.
make sure sysctl enable speakup.service is set.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup-soft: No such file or
directory
insmod: ERROR: could not load module speakup_soft: No such file or
directory
however if I do lsmod it shows it is there [speakup_soft not
speakup-soft?]
speakup_soft 16384 1
speakup 167936 1 speakup_soft
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2023 5:20 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Try running insmod speakup-soft and see if you get an error.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, David wrote:
I am not sure what I did/didn't, I think it could be the version
update
that did the trick, I now see the speakup_soft module available, but
I am still not getting speech on the console, which is about where I
was about 2 clean installs ago ...
david@ubuntu:~$ inxi -S
System:
Host: ubuntu Kernel: 5.15.0-60-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Console:
pty
pts/0
Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) david@ubuntu:~$
systemctl status espeakup.service ? espeakup.service - Software
speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
enabled; vendor
preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Sun 2023-02-12 23:07:44 UTC;
9min
ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Process: 753 ExecStartPre=modprobe speakup_soft (code=exited,
status=0/SUCCESS)
Process: 784 ExecStart=/usr/bin/espeakup
--default-voice=${default_voice} (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 798 (espeakup)
Tasks: 5 (limit: 6880)
Memory: 10.5M
CPU: 183ms
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
??798 /usr/bin/espeakup --default-voice=
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Starting Software speech output
for
Speakup...
Feb 12 23:07:44 ubuntu systemd[1]: Started Software speech output
for
Speakup.
david@ubuntu:~$
Am I missing something?
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Volodymyr Dorozhinsky <dorozhin...@ukr.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2023 6:05 AM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Jude DaShiell'
<jdash...@panix.com>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: installing ubuntu with speakup
Hi,
Maybe Ubuntu-Server does not come with speakup kernel module? At
least in
my both setups of Ubuntu-Mate 20.04 and 22.04 I did not have to
install it manually.
Here is an output from my 20.04 machine:
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ inxi -S
System: Host: dell-Inspiron-5570 Kernel: 5.15.0-58-generic x86_64
bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0
Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS (Focal Fossa)
dorozhinsky2@dell-Inspiron-5570:~$ systemctl status espeakup.service ?
espeakup.service - Software speech output for Speakup
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/espeakup.service;
enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-02-07 14:40:05 CET;
22min
ago
Docs: man:espeakup(8)
Main PID: 1366 (espeakup)
Tasks: 4 (limit: 9260)
Memory: 6.3M
CGroup: /system.slice/espeakup.service
??1366 /usr/bin/espeakup -V
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Starting Software
speech output for Speakup...
Feb 07 14:40:05 dell-Inspiron-5570 systemd[1]: Started Software
speech output for Speakup.
Best regards
Volodymyr
On 2/7/23 04:57, David wrote:
I guess I am lucky I have had good experience with Debian so far.
It was suggested that ubuntu is supposed to work better with the
hardware I am about to be installing on [at work] but since I am
testing on some different hardware [at home] I can't tell if
that is true or not
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 7:34 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
You would have to make the right choices in debian to get what
you want they're not default. I've done much of it before but
found slint far more straightforward to get this process working
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an
in-person meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for
lugging all the equipment along
However, from your description it does not sound like it is an
easily repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider
looking into switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something
that would hopefully work 'out of the box'
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what
kernel and version of kernel you want to install. If ubuntu
hasn't got generic kernel available you can't do it with ubuntu
until after installation and doing that isn't a trivial process
either It's a matter of downloading the kernel image file then
installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk. Best
done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux
club day
meeting.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
How do one use the generic kernel while installing? I just
pop the disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone
is reading them to me]
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a
reinstall the speakup modules are in that kernel. How you
install missing modules is possible if on your disk in source
code but you'll have to build them correctly first. If you
had mlocate package installed and had done updatedb first then
you could do locate speakup_soft and find if you have that
module in source code on your
disk.
Alternatively ubuntu in its customizations could have
blacklisted all of the speakup modules. They would be on the
disk and would have first to be removed from the blacklist
then built and then installed. It's a complicated
process, just the way ubuntu wants it.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that
is
possible?
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all
of the speakup modules.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it
doesn't appear the speakup module is there after the
install, at least I am unable to find it in the module list,
and modprobe doesn't seems to be able to find it either
From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it
and wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step
instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything
Thanks again ?
--David
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM
To: David <bear...@yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhin...@ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader. That or
replace ubuntu with
another distribution.
You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a
espeak.log to
each command then read down through espeak.log once you
finish getting all of these failures. The ansi codes get
stripped out that
way.
Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be
used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
.
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