On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 10:48:56AM -0600, Tom Rini wrote: > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 07:40:35PM +0300, Svyatoslav Ryhel wrote: > > пн, 16 вер. 2024 р. о 19:28 Tom Rini <tr...@konsulko.com> пише: > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 07:00:56PM -0600, Simon Glass wrote: > > > > Hi Marek, > > > > > > > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 07:26, Marek Vasut <ma...@denx.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 6/28/24 9:32 AM, Simon Glass wrote: > > > > > > Hi Marek, > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > >>>> @@ -473,8 +483,6 @@ static int regulator_pre_probe(struct > > > > > >>>> udevice *dev) > > > > > >>>> -ENODATA); > > > > > >>>> uc_pdata->max_uA = dev_read_u32_default(dev, > > > > > >>>> "regulator-max-microamp", > > > > > >>>> -ENODATA); > > > > > >>>> - uc_pdata->always_on = dev_read_bool(dev, > > > > > >>>> "regulator-always-on"); > > > > > >>>> - uc_pdata->boot_on = dev_read_bool(dev, > > > > > >>>> "regulator-boot-on"); > > > > > >>>> uc_pdata->ramp_delay = dev_read_u32_default(dev, > > > > > >>>> "regulator-ramp-delay", > > > > > >>>> 0); > > > > > >>>> uc_pdata->force_off = dev_read_bool(dev, > > > > > >>>> "regulator-force-boot-off"); > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > >>>> 2.43.0 > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> This is reading a lot of DT stuff very early, which may be slow. > > > > > >>> It is > > > > > >>> also reading from the DT in the bind() step which we sometimes > > > > > >>> have to > > > > > >>> do, but try to avoid. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Actually, it is reading only the bare minimum very early in bind, > > > > > >> the > > > > > >> always-on and boot-on, the rest is in pre_probe, i.e. later. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I see that. Also it is inevitable that these properties need to > > > > > > be read before probe(), since they control whether to probe(). > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Also this seems to happen in SPL and again pre-reloc and again in > > > > > >>> U-Boot post-reloc? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> What does, the uclass post_bind ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean that this code will be called in SPL (if the regulators are > > > > > > in > > > > > > the DT there), U-Boot pre-reloc and post-reloc, each time turning on > > > > > > the regulators. We need a way to control that, don't we? > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that if those regulators are turned on once in the > > > > > earliest stage , turning them on again in the follow up stage would > > > > > be a > > > > > noop ? This is the point of regulator-*-on, to keep the regulators on. > > > > > > > > No, there is sometimes a particular sequence needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Should we have a step in the init sequence where we set up the > > > > > >>> regulators, by calling regulators_enable_boot_on() ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Let's not do this , the entire point of this series is to get rid > > > > > >> of > > > > > >> those functions and do the regulator configuration the same way LED > > > > > >> subsystem does it -- by probing always-on/boot-on regulators and > > > > > >> configuring them correctly on probe. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> To me regulators_enable_boot_on() and the like was always an > > > > > >> inconsistently applied workaround for missing > > > > > >> DM_FLAG_PROBE_AFTER_BIND , > > > > > >> which is now implemented, so such workarounds can be removed. > > > > > > > > > > > > That patch seemed to slip under the radar, sent and applied on the > > > > > > same day! We really need to add a test for it, BTW. > > > > > > > > > > Which patch ? My recollection of DM_FLAG_PROBE_AFTER_BIND was that it > > > > > took a while to get in. > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My concern is that this might cause us ordering problems. We perhaps > > > > > > want the regulators to be done first. If drivers are probed which > > > > > > use > > > > > > regulators, then presumably they will enable them. Consider this: > > > > > > > > > > > > - LED driver auto-probes > > > > > > - probes I2C bus 2 > > > > > > - probes LDO1 which is autoset so turns on > > > > > > - LDO1 probes, but is already running > > > > > > - LDO2 probes, which is autoset so turns on > > > > > > > > > > > > So long as it is OK to enable the regulators in any order, then this > > > > > > seems fine. But is it? How do we handle the case where are > > > > > > particular > > > > > > sequence is needed? > > > > > > > > > > Did we finally arrive at the point where we need -EPROBE_DEFER alike > > > > > mechanism ? > > > > > > > > Nope. But I am concerned that this patch is leading us there. bind() > > > > really needs to be as clean as possible. It is one of the design > > > > elements of driver model which Linux should adopt. > > > > > > > > There is always a race to be the first to init something, move the > > > > init earlier, etc... I don't see any general need to init the > > > > regulators right at the start. It should be done in a separate > > > > function and be optional. I am happy to send a patch if you like. > > > > > > Since we're currently stuck on the point where Marek has patches that > > > fix a real problem, and Svyatoslav has a problem with them, but isn't > > > currently able to debug it, yes, please put forward your patch that > > > might address both sets of problems so we can all figure out how to > > > resolve the problems, thanks! > > > > With patches from Marek there is no i2c chip probe of PMIC, while > > without i2c chip probe is called (probe_chip function). How this is > > even possible? > > Yes, it's very puzzling. Do you have the ability to get some debug > console type information out so you can sprinkle in some prints and > figure it out?
So, here's my plan. Marek posted https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/uboot/patch/20240924220905.514122-1-ma...@denx.de/ which is a work-around, so that v2024.10 can work. I'm going to take that for master tomorrow. I'm also going to take _this_ series to -next tomorrow, as this is the best approach we currently have to solving the overall problem. The Tegra platforms that are now very oddly broken need to get debugged to see where their problem is, and if there's an entirely alternate approach, Simon can post patches for that instead on top of next. -- Tom
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