Wolfgang Denk <w...@denx.de> wrote: > Dear Haavard Skinnemoen, > > In message <20100809181318.5ec2a...@hskinnemoen-d830> you wrote: > > > > > First, I have poked them a number of times, both on and off list. > > > > I haven't received any such pokes from you in a long time. > > I'm not talking about you here. You have clearly indicated that you > resign as custodian, which I have accepted. So why should I poke you?
I didn't resign _that_ long ago. > > I used to be subscribed to a whole bunch of lists, but after hitting > > around 70,000 unread e-mail, I decided to unsubscribe from most of > > them, including u-boot and LKML. > > > > Of course, this is also the main reason why I wanted to resign as a > > custodian; I felt I hadn't been able to do a proper job for some time. > > But this makes it especially odd that I wasn't Cc'd on the discussion > > about custodianship. > > A custodian who is not subscried on the mailing list? How is this > supposed to work? I have to admit that I never expected somebody > would come up with such a concept. It actually works on Linux, where people know that they need to Cc the maintainer to get his attention. So you can actually maintain a dozen drivers across half a dozen subsystems without getting completely bogged down with e-mail. If you just drop a patch into the LKML firehose, it will most likely be ignored unless akpm picks it up and pokes the relevant maintainer. > > > Third, there have been patches posted that clearly fall in their > > > domain, and there is zero response: no comment, no activity in the > > > custodian directory, no pull request, nothing. > > > > If I wasn't Cc'd, that would explain it. Of course, it's always best if > > It has never been a requirement to Cc: the custodian. It is up to the > custodian to pick up the work that falls into hiw bailiwick, > including for example global changes that happen to affect his > architecture / subsystem. Of course this requires that you are > subscribed. And that you actually *read* the list, at leats to the > extend that you recognize certain buzzwords in the Subject: lines, > like the name of the architure you feel responsible for. In other words, being a u-boot custodian takes a lot more work than being a Linux maintainer. Combine this with what I said before about it being difficult to justify spending a lot of time keeping the bootloader limping along, and it's not good news if you want more vendor involvement. > > maintainers follow all relevant mailing lists, but sometimes it's just > > not an option, not if you're working on several other projects besides > > u-boot. > > Your idea of working as a maintainer is very much different from mine, > and from the actual requirements for the job. That seems to be the case, yes. Haavard _______________________________________________ U-Boot mailing list U-Boot@lists.denx.de http://lists.denx.de/mailman/listinfo/u-boot