Go David. As a disclaimer, I admit that I am seriously biased, since I am probably the only nerd on the planet that thinks Tim Berners Lee should be shot for giving us the stupid web trash we have now, or perhaps it is the large corporate interests to blame that determined for their own personal gain that the web was should be the ULTIMATE vehicle for software facilitation. Either way, I plainly admit my anti-web bias.
Nonetheless, the ONLY solution for overcoming the massive amounts of oversights in various areas (security, scalability, state management, etc) in the current protocols (SMTP, FTP, HTTP, etc) is by RETHINKING and REPLACING them with something that inherently thinks smarter. Kudos to David for thinking OUT of the box to ANY DEGREE. Innovation should be supported, not rebuffed for its lack of "status quo" complicity. Ok, I am deflating my personal soap box now... You may return to your regularly scheduled "programming"... :) Hoby -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. G. Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:13 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] AN: New e-mail protocol (spam free and more!) Answering to all... DZ-Jay: > So, rather than a new "protocol", you have created a new e-mail server and > client system which communicates in its own proprietary binary format? That is correct, but according the definition of protocol and thinking about my system runs directly over TCP/IP... DZ-Jay: > Also, if it is "not compatible with SMTP", how does anybody outside your > own mail server network get it? For the moment I have the only server, but this system works in the same way than the standard e-mail ... using Domains and MX-DNS queries. Fastream Technologies: > I wonder why he chose a binary format instead of text as no popular/common > protocol is designed that way. The reason is simple, using a binary protocol ensures a minimum "consumption of bytes" through the net. And the most important reason, my protocol uses only 4 steps to send or receive an e-mail: 1- client: connection and authentication 2- server: response 3- client: work identification and e-mail transmision (in a single block!) 4- server: final response (CRC validation made!) 5- client: request to close connection This kind of protocol ensures a very fast interaction client/server and enables a native data compressión. Darin McGee > So you lock out 99.99999% of the email - no wonder it blocks spam. hehehe ... I added many features that ensures a "real spam blocking", not only taking hand on the incompatibility, please read my webpage www.hidens.com.ar I meaning that all known spamming methods are blocked or minimized (from "address thefts" to "mail pumps"), except a user sending a "real" e-mail to another one (obviously). Well you can just denounce that user to the webmaster... Darin McGee > That's what I love about standards, everybody has one :) Yes, the only problem here is how to popularize it... hehehe Thanks for your time to every body, you are invited to use it... David Jorge Aguirre Grazio www.djag.com.ar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org> Sent: Thursday, 07 February, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] AN: New e-mail protocol (spam free and more!) >I suspect that's half the point. Only like equipped users can > communicate. Guess there could be a use in the financial or military > markets, or other intentionaly "closed" environments... There again, > I'd also guess they have such systems implemented already? > > Servers, nothing to stop you delivering directly, as many corporate > systems do already, ours included, so long as you know the IP or domain > address of course... I suspect for the above type of users, regular > POP/SMTP/IMAP etc incompatability would not be a problem! > > Have to say though, spam is primeraly user driven from personal > experience, from website form filling and so on. And what happens when > a spammer gets hold of one of these secure mailer clients etc. > > Wonder why PGP or Open GPG is not as popular as it could be? There are > "plugins" that integrate OK with the likes of Outlook (ugh!) > Thunderbird, Pegasus etc... Ah, of course, the powers that be, like to > watch what goes on.... Silly me... > > Cheers.. I'll crawl back under my rock, it's a bit too bright out > here... > > Dave B. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DZ-Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:56 AM >> To: ICS support mailing >> Subject: Re: [twsocket] AN: New e-mail protocol (spam free and more!) >> >> Hello: >> Also, if it is "not compatible with SMTP", how does >> anybody outside your own mail server network get it? And if >> it does communicate with external SMTP servers in order to >> inter-operate with other networks (otherwise, what's the >> point in sending yourself e-mail?) then it *is* susceptible >> to SPAM and abuse. >> >> dZ. >> -- >> DZ-Jay [TeamICS] >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html >> >> >> > This mail has been scanned by Palmer Cook Computer Services Limited. > www.palmercook.co.uk > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
