As Fastream Technologies mentioned UPnp was the way i was looking for and not IPnp as the subject describes actually, as the program i have currently works fine when i configure the web admin for my router. There is plenty of checks inplace within the app to prevent unwanted or malicous attacks but i cannot expect joe blogs to have to setup port redirection etc via there router software which is why i am after some info or example of someone that has used UPnp.
Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fastream Technologies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > One addition to your answer: There is a standard called UPnP > (Universal Plug and Play) which enables supporting routers to be able > to be configured by software (not have to log in via the web interface > but they provide some sort of low level web service). This is used for > forwarding NAT ports. > > Regards, > > SZ > > On 10/22/06, Francois PIETTE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > > > This is how any p2p system works. There is are only two possibilities: > > 1) A given computer can receive incomming connections > > 2) A given computer cannot receive any incomming connection > > > > The case (1) occur when the computer is behind a fixewall, a proxy, a NAT > > router or other kind of security product which need to be configured to > > allow incomming connections. Most profesionnal users are in that situation. > > The case (2) occur for computer directly connected to the internet and > > having no firewall of security product installed. Many home user fall into > > this case which is very risky in term of security. > > > > With case (1), if both computers are in that case, you either have to use an > > intermediate server or have one of the computers configured to accept > > incomming connections (and thus fall into case (2)). > > > > With case (2), there is no problem for a computer to act as a server and > > accept incomming connection. The paradise for p2p network (and hackers using > > remote control software or back door software). > > > > -- > > Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.overbyte.be > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org> > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > > > Is this how somehing like Kazaa works.? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:52 AM > > > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > > > > > > > >> > So if in those applications pc1 has the mp3 that pc2 wants how is the > > > data > > >> > transfered.. isn't one uploading and one downloading thus a minimum of > > > one > > >> > server needed , sorry for the not understanding.? > > >> > > >> When no direct connection is possible (for example the user, like me has > > >> a > > >> NAT router), then an intermediate server is used. This intermediate > > >> server > > >> could be one of the user in the p2p network, a user which allows > > >> incomming > > >> connections (What a fool !). > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > >> -- > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> http://www.overbyte.be > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Francois PIETTE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > To: "ICS support mailing" <twsocket@elists.org> > > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:02 AM > > >> > Subject: Re: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> Those applications are client. There is only outgoing connections. > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Contribute to the SSL Effort. Visit > > >> >> http://www.overbyte.be/eng/ssl.html > > >> >> -- > > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> >> http://www.overbyte.be > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> To: <twsocket@elists.org> > > >> >> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:08 AM > > >> >> Subject: [twsocket] IP Plug and Play or IPV6 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >I am using an app i wrote which opens a http server on each users pc, > > >> >> >the > > >> >> >app when running registers with the website as online and this > > >> >> >obtains > > >> > the > > >> >> >true ip, port used etc. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > The app allows searches a php driven site to obtain the ip address > > >> >> > of > > > a > > >> >> > given search criteria and returns the remote users details which > > > inturn > > >> >> > allows the communication to remote users directly. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > However at the moment being on a wireless connection and under > > > testing > > >> > via > > >> >> > my desktop and laptop i have to configure port redirection for each > > >> > server > > >> >> > to allow the traffic to go to the correct server else neither > > > receives > > >> > or > > >> >> > maybe only one receive a request. But if i download bittorrent or > > > some > > >> >> > other similar app i can run there ap no problem without adding any > > >> >> > information to my wireless admin to allow the traffic. How do they > > >> >> > do > > >> >> > this, is it due to IPNP or IPV6 etc. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thanks for your help.. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -- > > >> >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > >> >> > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > >> >> > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > >> >> please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > >> >> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > >> > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > >> > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > >> > > >> -- > > >> To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > >> please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > >> Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > > > > -- > Fastream Technologies > Software IQ: Innovation & Quality > www.fastream.com | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: +90-312-223-2830 > -- > To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list > please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket > Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be > > -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
