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On dg., ag. 01 2021, Glyph wrote:
Hello Twistors,
Our venerable hosting provider, tummy.com <http://tummy.com/>,
will be terminating their business operations on September 30,
2021.
datetime.date(2021, 9, 30) - datetime.date.today()
datetime.timedelta(days=60)
In addition to being a bit personally sad - Tummy has been an
avid supporter of the Twisted community since the very beginning
- this means we have just about 60 days to fully migrate our
website, mailing list, and DNS's hosting from Dornkirk, the
machine where it's been running continuously since 2013, to ...
something else.
it is sad indeed when friendly businesses terminate operations,
but Twisted will go on :-).
There are 2 problems here:
We need a sponsor to help us find a new hosting or cloud
provider where things can be hosted. We do pay tummy currently,
and we can probably ask the SFC to pay a different hosting
provider a similar price for equivalent services, but ideally
we'd find someone willing to donate something so as not to put a
drain on those resources.
Let's define this so I and others can ask around with various
infra providers:
- What is the service currently? (e.g. VPS/Physical? Which
resources?)
- Are the resources allocated adequate? Can/should they be
increased/reduced?
- Is currently something on the "wishlist" for this service? (e.g.
IPv6 support!)
- Even if the goal is and should be for that expense to disappear
or go down significantly: roughly what is the compensation being
offered for this service? (it might be easier to convince
someone to offer it at cost/partial compensation than it is to
offer it for free)
- Is location important? E.g. if I asked around and it were
fruitful, it'd be EU or Switzerland-based and not US-based as it
is right now.
I will need significant help with the operational aspects of the
migration. I typically do a bunch of behind-the-scenes system
administration for twistedmatrix.com <http://twistedmatrix.com/>
to keep the whole thing clunking along, but after my brain has
been fried by a year and a half's worth of pandemic stress, I
simply don't have the time, energy, or mental capacity to do
this. I know I've asked for help before and rarely received
any, but if I have to do this entirely by myself, the most
likely outcome is that I'll migrate DNS to some free cloud thing
so at least my email address doesn't break (I migrated SMTP, and
thereby everything associated with personal email addresses to
Mailgun some years ago, so Tummy is not in that loop for that),
and the website (and this mailing list) will simply stop working
sometime between now and October. So if you'd like to keep
www.twistedmatrix.com <http://www.twistedmatrix.com/>,
speed.twistedmatrix.com <http://speed.twistedmatrix.com/>, our
IRC bot (which is offline anyway right now due to Freenode
shutting down), https://twistedmatrix.com/highscores/
<https://twistedmatrix.com/highscores/>, this mailing list, or
our dogfooding instance for Twisted Names DNS, please volunteer
so we can start to coordinate.
Thank you for both doing this so long and so far and for being
straightforward about not being able to do it as much now.
I'd like to help and would be particularly (aka more intensively)
able to do so during August, even if that's just helping document
what needs to be done and how.
On a day-to-day basis I do some other sysadmin work and if
necessary would be able to accommodate taking care of
Twisted-related things into that.
This is the documentation that I am aware of:
https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Infrastructure
Particularly braid: https://github.com/twisted-infra/braid
Is there anything else to look at? Something known to not be
supported in braid / only partially supported?
Would you rather schedule some online voice session where I poke
your brain at what needs to be done (IIRC something similar was
done about 5 years ago) and take notes that can be used (also by
someone else) while you let your mind flow happily?
If you've been wanting to just use Github Issues and don't care
about preserving any of the data in Trac, congratulations,
you're about to win that argument by default ;-).
In the worst case scenario, I will download a backup image
before things get turned off in case someone wants to deal with
this
I personally hope this doesn't happen; particularly the mailing
list is a great low-bandwidth way of staying mostly up-to-date
with the project.
Cheers,
--
Evilham
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