> On Jul 7, 2017, at 3:59 AM, Phil Mayers <p.may...@imperial.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> On 06/07/17 03:58, Glyph wrote:
>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 2:32 AM, Barry Scott <barry.sc...@forcepoint.com 
>>> <mailto:barry.sc...@forcepoint.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am interested in using Twisted with a couple of technologies: WebSockets 
>>> and
>>> QUIC. I'm researching what is already available.
>> Why are you interested in QUIC? My understanding was that Google used this 
>> protocol as an experiment, but HTTP/2 is the successful termination of the 
>> experiment, and nobody should really be using it.  (For http2 support, `pip 
>> install twisted[tls,http2]`).
> 
> QUIC is definitely not dead. HTTP/2 is a clear win over HTTP/1 and was the 
> easiest first step, but as you've noted there's substantial interest in 
> running HTTP/2 over better-than-TCP transport (UDP being the only practical 
> alternative in the near term, what with middleboxes being so horribly 
> omnipresent).
> 
> As someone else noted, maybe you're thinking of SPDY?

I think I was actually thinking of the somewhat confusingly-named "QUIC 
Crypto", which is actually dead, and we should either use TLS 1.3, or, as QUIC 
apparently does now, DTLS.

> Ironically the goals of QUIC are, I believe, similar to Vertex ;o)

Really?  How so?

-g
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