On Jun 12, 2014, at 1:13 AM, Glyph wrote:

> alchimia is not a re-implementation or a separate sqlalchemy package.  It 
> *is* sqlalchemy; it's just a slight extension for integration sqlalchemy 
> operations with the Twisted main loop.

Yeah, I get that.  I'm really excited for it.

I use the declarative method (orm) for setting up the structure -- even when 
not using the ORM / Session.  It's just easier to write classes and maintain a 
single package for ORM & non-orm usage by using the ORM to set up the metadata.

there's an unaddressed ticket about that in the alchemia package.  

i also noticed the line "Some methods simply haven't been implemented yet. If 
you file a bug, we'll implement them! "

looking through the source and docs, there seemed to be no 
savepoint/begin_nested support yet.  

this looks like the package I want in the future -- i'm just uneasy about what 
might/might not be supported, on top of the migration work.    

the buildbot option looks like a better alternative for now -- we don't incur 
much more technical debt, and free up more time for a proper solution later.
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