If you're still running XP isn't it pretty unlikely you have hardware modern 
enough to power a Steam game in the first place?

-J

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> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:51, Glyph <gl...@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:07 AM, HawkOwl <hawk...@atleastfornow.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I have raised the question of Windows XP support in Twisted earlier today in 
>> #twisted-dev. Since the Microsoft "extended support" cut-off is within six 
>> or so months, and there is continuing trouble with the XP-based buildslave, 
>> I think it would be a good idea to get a figure of how many Windows XP users 
>> there are currently using Twisted, so informed decisions can be made in 
>> regards to supporting it.
>> 
>> If you use Twisted on Windows XP, please comment on ticket #6798 [1], so we 
>> can get an idea of the usage numbers.
>> 
>> -hawkowl
> 
> 
> I have 2 concerns with XP support; one is that an existing user will be 
> unable to upgrade to a new version of Twisted, but an equally valid concern 
> is that Twisted would be unsuitable for a *new* application because of a 
> requirement to run on XP.  And although Microsoft doesn't support it, there 
> are still millions and millions of computers with it installed.
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems>
> 
> Perhaps more interesting than that ~30% number, though, is the fact that ~7% 
> of the Steam user base is still actively using XP on machines they play games 
> on:
> 
> <http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey>
> 
> And I'd definitely like Twisted to stay true to its roots and remain an 
> attractive option for game developers.  I'm pretty sure no games on the Steam 
> store currently use Twisted, but I would like that to change ;-).  "First, 
> sacrifice 7% of your potential revenue" seems like a bad starting point for 
> the pitch for why Twisted would be great to use in their game.
> 
> Nevertheless I can definitely understand the appeal of dropping support for 
> XP, too.  I really hope that the "extended support" cut-off is going to 
> provoke a massive drop in those numbers, but somehow I suspect that a 
> substantial fraction of the people on those systems are going to keep using 
> them until they physically fail, and do not know or care whether Microsoft 
> "supports" them.
> 
> Also, aren't the majority of the problems on the Windows buildslave just race 
> conditions that we don't seem to hit with our other builders right now?  It 
> would be good to have it be regularly green *before* it's decommissioned.  
> (If you're referring to operational issues keeping it running, then, by all 
> means carry on.)
> 
> -glyph
> 
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