On 04/22/2011 03:41 PM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:01 AM, David<da...@silveregg.co.jp> wrote: >> On 04/22/2011 06:21 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Kevin Horn<kevin.h...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> cluster****. So he rewrote distutils with an eye on keeping things nice >>>> for >>>> everyone. Project managers, distro packagers, users installing software, >>>> etc. This is distutils2. In Python 3.3 and up it will be called >>>> "packaging". Once people start using it, it will make a lot of the current >>>> packaging headaches in the Python world go away. >>> >>> Are you sure about that? Where is the list of stories it will solve >>> when people start using it, so I can check that my cases are covered >>> by distutils2 insurance plan? >> >> [OT] >> You can take a look at bento, which is my own response to the distutils >> issues we have in the scipy community (but I would expect twisted and >> most big python libraries to have similar issues): >> >> http://cournape.github.com/Bento/ >> >> It is designed from the ground up with the idea of reliable >> customization and complex build supports. It can already build numpy and >> scipy with a near 50 % reduction in LOC compared to our setup.py, and >> more reliably thanks to using a real build tool in the backend (waf, but >> you can add support for a different one if you want). > > [OT] > I still can't see how it solves even the basic user story - 'i want to > uninstall twisted' or 'i want two versions of twisted installed'.
Bento's point is: make packagers life easier (without making life of users more miserable), so that you are more likely than before to be able to use the native tools. People who are happy installing from sources will not be disrupted, and people like me who hate source install and love linux packaging (or windows .msi for that matter) can actually build those without going insane trying to understand distutils. > Absolute paths in examples won't work on Windows Of course they do - like in distutils, I translate them inside bento so that everything works on any platform. cheers, David _______________________________________________ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
