On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:43:41AM -0400, Steve Steiner (listsin) wrote: > That's the thing about Twisted; sometimes it's hard to know whether > the stuff that has been built into standard Python since Twisted > 'rolled their own' is a superset, a subset, or a completely > different beast. Logging is a good case in point. Since we're > using Python's logging everywhere, I wasn't even sure whether there > would be an advantage to learning Twisted's similar system. > Twisted's trial is another example; we've just been using nose. > Seems like there's always some little extra that makes the Twisted > stuff worth knowing.
Most of the duplicate stuff in Twisted has the excuse of being written before any alternatives were available, and usually having one or two extra little integration features that current alternatives don't provide. A year or two ago I was planning a new project using Twisted, and (as a reaction to the masses of horrible, legacy code at my employer) had decreed that the project would use the Python stdlib wherever possible, including logging and testing, and well-integrated third-party tools where necessary. First on the chopping block was the use of standard Python unit-tests and nose. At the time, I don't believe it was possible to run TestCases inheriting from twisted.trial.unittest.TestCase in anything besides Trial - and you need to use trial's TestCase class if you want to do anything with Deferreds, so nose and the standard unittest.TestCase had to go. Once I was using Trial, which automatically sets up Twisted's logging system to log to a handy file for debugging purposes, I had to decide what to do about logging - try to reroute Twisted's logging into the Python logging system (which would mean doing something complicated for tests), or just give up and use Twisted's logging everywhere. I opted for the latter route as the path of least resistance (and because it would be easier to set up with twistd later). I believe nose does for Python logging what Trial does for Twisted logging these days, and if nose can run Trial's TestCase subclasses, you might just as well stick with what you're already using. There are integration advantages to using all the Twisted goodies together, but it's not nearly the same amazing quantum leap in understanding and capability that Twisted's core provides. _______________________________________________ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://twistedmatrix.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twisted-python
