I have to think Adam is right here; we are not talking about gossip - there
was plenty of that on the FB trending feed even when they were using human
editors. What we are seeing now is real, moldy bull shit, that I just can't
believe the FB decision-makers really want to see on their front page.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Gawker and TMZ were, or are not aimed at everyone. Yes - they want to
> maximise page views and did all they could to do so. But that was amongst
> their target audience.
>
> For starters both were aimed squarely at Americans, and Americans
> interested in gossip of one sort or another. I'm not saying non-Americans
> don't or didn't read them, but their target was in the US.
>
> Facebook is GLOBAL. It's aimed at everyone from 13 (and in reality
> younger) to grandparents wanting to see family photos. We're literally
> talking about billions of users.
>
> So no, Facebook actually wants to be read by all, and crap in the trending
> box really doesn't help. And they know it, and will probably fix it.
>
> Let's also not forget about internet.org - Zuckerberg's piece for the
> third world. The disconnected. He actually wants to make Facebook *the
> internet* for billions more. He's been trying to deals with mobile
> operators in India (without success so far) and just this last week in
> Nigeria, amongst many other places. Free  internet.org services on any
> cellphone - but to his services. It's a walled garden approach. Like when
> AOL wasn't the internet.
>
> And if he's controlling the news on what to many people *is* the internet,
> that makes what Facebook does or doesn't allow enormously important. Scary
> frankly.
>
> On 9 Sep 2016 22:54, "Kevin M." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2016, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I understand that is what you are claiming; what I am having trouble
>> believing is that it is actually true that the kinds of stories they are
>> posting will actually get them more page clicks.
>>
>>
>> Gawker was seen by millions. Time posts Kardashian/Jenner stories
> multiple times a day. TMZ doesn't exist to share happy, friendly gossip.
>
> There is a market for media that appeals to the worst aspects of human
> nature. In skilled hands, that can be a profitable market.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Kevin M. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm making the claim that Facebook doesn't differentiate between sleaze
>>> and non-sleaze (or news and non-news). All that matters to them is getting
>>> page clicks.
>>>
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