We were already discussing that in another thread:

https://groups.google.com/g/turbovnc-users/c/jl2y3NmEfsI/m/AaQ3ns_nAgAJ

Also, I am the only TurboVNC maintainer and the only full-time developer.  There are no other experts.

Referring to my reply in the other thread, my observation is that:

- A logind session will be associated with a TurboVNC session when a client connects using SSH tunneling, and that logind session will go away when the client disconnects.

- If a TurboVNC session is started via the TurboVNC Session Manager, then an additional logind session will be associated with the TurboVNC session and will persist for the life of the session.  However, that logind session will be in the Closing state.

I will experiment with the workaround and see how it changes the observations.  Please be patient, as I am working on about five things at once.

DRC

On 1/9/25 3:36 AM, Felix Natter wrote:

hello turbovnc experts,

I found one workaround (when starting TVNC from ssh session):

systemd-run --scope --user /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver -wm mate :2

A first test was successful, but this has yet to be tested extensively.
Or can you think of a better solution (I think I have experienced that when
running the above command from a physical session that the TVNC process
sometimes was killed on logut..)?

Many Thanks and Best Regards,

Felix

On 09.01.25 08:44, Felix Natter wrote:

Dear turbovnc experts,

our home office use case is that people log in via ssh over vpn,
start vncserver from there and then connect via tvnc, and
we are using an automated suspend-to-ram solution that relies on
logind sessions not blocking it.

When starting TVNC from ssh and then logging out of the ssh session,
a State: closing session is left behind which blocks suspend:

$ loginctl
SESSION     UID USER    SEAT  TTY
    [..]
     85 1000043 USER         pts/1
    [..]

$ loginctl session-status 85
85 - USER (UID)
           Since: Tue 2025-01-07 12:55:19 CET; 1 day 18h ago
          Leader: 178770
             TTY: pts/1
          Remote: 172.16.0.1
         Service: sshd; type tty; class user
           State: closing
            Unit: session-85.scope
                  ├─179044 /opt/TurboVNC/bin/Xvnc :3 -desktop "TurboVNC: sidact36:3 (USER)" -auth /home/USER/.Xauthority -geometry 1240x900 -depth 24 -rfbauth /home/USER/.vnc/passwd -x509cert /home/USER/.vnc/x509_cert.pem -x509key /h>                   ├─179049 sh -c "(/opt/TurboVNC/bin/xstartup.turbovnc; /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver -kill :3) >> '/home/USER/.vnc/sidact36:3.log' 2>&1 &"
                  ├─179050 mate-session
                  ├─179054 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session                   ├─179055 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --syslog --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 8 --session                   ├─179151 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/im-launch mate-session
                  ├─179168 /usr/bin/ibus-daemon --daemonize --xim
                  ├─179172 /usr/libexec/gvfsd
                  ├─179177 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000043/gvfs -f
                  ├─179182 /usr/libexec/ibus-dconf
                  ├─179183 /usr/libexec/ibus-ui-gtk3
                  ├─179185 /usr/libexec/ibus-extension-gtk3
                  ├─179187 /usr/libexec/ibus-x11 --kill-daemon
                  ├─179194 /usr/libexec/ibus-portal
                  ├─179215 /usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher
                  ├─179220 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 13 --address=unix:path=/run/user/1000043/at-spi/bus_3                   ├─179225 /usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
                  ├─179233 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal
                  ├─179247 /usr/libexec/xdg-permission-store
                  ├─179258 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-gnome
                  ├─179262 /usr/libexec/ibus-engine-simple
                  ├─179367 sh -c "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.17/pxgsettings org.gnome.system.proxy org.gnome.system.proxy.http org.gnome.system.proxy.https org.gnome.system.proxy.ftp org.gnome.system.proxy.socks"                   ├─179368 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.17/pxgsettings org.gnome.system.proxy org.gnome.system.proxy.http org.gnome.system.proxy.https org.gnome.system.proxy.ftp org.gnome.system.proxy.socks
                  ├─179373 /usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk
                  ├─179425 /usr/libexec/dconf-service
                  ├─179431 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --foreground --components=secrets
                  ├─179441 /usr/bin/mate-settings-daemon
                  ├─179495 /usr/bin/mate-screensaver --no-daemon
                  ├─179504 marco
                  ├─179514 mate-panel
                  ├─179539 /usr/bin/caja
                  ├─179541 /usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
                  ├─179545 /usr/lib/mate-panel/wnck-applet
                  ├─179547 /usr/lib/mate-applets/trashapplet
                  ├─179549 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/brisk-menu/brisk-menu                   ├─179552 /usr/lib/mate-indicator-applet/mate-indicator-applet-complete
                  ├─179555 /usr/lib/mate-panel/notification-area-applet
                  ├─179577 /usr/libexec/gvfs-goa-volume-monitor
                  ├─179581 /usr/libexec/goa-daemon
                  ├─179589 /usr/libexec/ayatana-indicator-application/ayatana-indicator-application-service                   ├─179593 /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server/evolution-alarm-notify                   ├─179594 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.5 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0                   ├─179595 /usr/libexec/ayatana-indicator-messages/ayatana-indicator-messages-service                   ├─179607 /usr/libexec/ayatana-indicator-power/ayatana-indicator-power-service
                  ├─179617 /usr/libexec/goa-identity-service
                  ├─179633 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor
                  ├─179634 update-notifier
                  ├─179636 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
                  ├─179648 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/blueman-applet
                  ├─179657 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor

It can easily be reproduced:

- ssh hostname # hostname of local computer

- /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver -wm mate :2

- log out the ssh session

- the session is not logged out (State: closing)

- the session is properly closed when killing the vnc server

I guess the session is necessary for TVNC to stay running(?), but can you think of a workaround for
this blocking behavior?

Many Thanks and Best Regards!
Felix

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