The most relevant comparisons are g3_g3_gdm.envlog vs. mate_g3_lightdm.envlog and g3_mate_gdm.envlog vs. mate_mate_lightdm.envlog, since they compare the same window manager running in TurboVNC with an always-failing vs. an always-successful configuration.

Comparing g3_g3_gdm.envlog vs. mate_g3_lightdm.envlog, nothing really stands out except:

- XAUTHORITY=/run/user/{uid}/gdm/Xauthority in the failing configuration vs. XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority in the successful configuration. - XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS contain /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg in the failing configuration vs. /usr/share/ubuntu in the successful configuration.
- SYSTEMD_EXEC_PID is set in the failing configuration.
- SSH_AGENT_LAUNCHER is set in the failing configuration (but I don't see how that could matter.) - Some XDG_ display manager variables are set in the successful configuration (but I don't see how that could matter.)

Comparing g3_mate_gdm.envlog vs. mate_mate_lightdm.envlog, nothing really stands out except:

- GNOME_SHELL_SESSION_MODE, GNOME_TERMINAL_SCREEN, and GNOME_TERMINAL_SERVICE are set in the failing configuration (but MATE doesn't use any of those.) - XAUTHORITY=/run/user/{uid}/gdm/Xauthority in the failing configuration vs. XAUTHORITY=~/.Xauthority in the successful configuration. - XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS contain /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg in the failing configuration.
- SYSTEMD_EXEC_PID is set in the failing configuration.
- SSH_AGENT_LAUNCHER is set in the failing configuration (but I don't see how that could matter.)

Comparing the sometimes-failing configuration (g3_mate_lightdm.envlog) vs. an equivalent always-successful configuration (mate_mate_lightdm.envlog), nothing really stands out except:

- GNOME_SHELL_SESSION_MODE, GNOME_TERMINAL_SCREEN, and GNOME_TERMINAL_SERVICE are set in the failing configuration (but MATE doesn't use any of those.) - XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS contain /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg in the failing configuration.
- SYSTEMD_EXEC_PID is set in the failing configuration.
- SSH_AGENT_LAUNCHER is set in the failing configuration (but I don't see how that could matter.) - Some XDG_ display manager variables are set in the successful configuration (but I don't see how that could matter.)

The next thing I would try is unsetting SYSTEMD_EXEC_PID before invoking /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver. (Be sure to verify that it remains unset inside of the TurboVNC session.)  If that doesn't change the situation, then try removing /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu-xorg from XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS (but I doubt that will matter.)  Unfortunately, I have no other ideas.

DRC

On 1/21/24 9:41 AM, Felix Natter wrote:

hello DRC,

the sorted environment logs _within_ TVNC sessions are
attached (PHYSICAL_VNC_DISPLAYMANAGER.envlog):

g3_g3_gdm.envlog: FAILS
g3_mate_gdm.envlog: FAILS
g3_mate_lightdm.envlog: FAILS (not always!)
mate_g3_lightdm.envlog: SUCCEEDS
mate_mate_lightdm.envlog: SUCCEEDS

I hope I got it right this time.

Many Thanks and Best Regards!
Felix

DRC schrieb am Samstag, 20. Januar 2024 um 17:39:00 UTC+1:

    To be clear, when I talked about starting a session from SSH, I
    meant connecting directly to the system using SSH, not doing 'ssh
    localhost' from the local session.  However, I'm not sure if that
    matters.

    The value of XDG_SESSION_TYPE should always be x11 in a TurboVNC
    session, so I suspect that you recorded the environment variables
    too early. The only difference that matters is the difference
    between the environment variables inside of a TurboVNC session
    that fails vs. a TurboVNC session that succeeds.  Please record
    the environment variables inside of the TurboVNC sessions and pipe
    them through 'sort' before diffing them.  It would also be more
    meaningful to compare a failing vs. successful configuration using
    the same window manager, i.e. the difference between
    TurboVNC/GNOME sessions that succeed vs. fail and the difference
    between TurboVNC/MATE sessions that succeed vs. fail.

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