For completeness, I discovered a workaround to the issue, which is passing 
'-listen local' to /opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver.  Apparently GDM will not 
stomp on Display :1 if TurboVNC is listening on both the abstract and 
pathname Unix domain sockets associated with that display.  Passing 
'-listen local' causes TurboVNC to listen on the abstract UDS.  Note, 
however, that there are security concerns with abstract UDSs, so maybe not 
a good idea on production systems.

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 9:42:46 PM UTC-5 DRC wrote:

> Oof.  Apparently I already filed the issue as a bug against RHEL, and Red 
> Hat rejected it.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1673793
>
> But since the issue also occurs in Ubuntu, maybe I should've filed it 
> against GDM.
> (I realize that the issue is resolved from your POV.  I am just updating 
> this thread in case someone finds it via Google.  Apparently I answer so 
> many bug reports that I can't remember the ones I myself filed two years 
> ago, so the person who finds this thread via Google may be me.)
>
> On 1/2/24 6:29 PM, DRC wrote:
>
> I don't know why the issue occurred in the first place, then, unless for 
> some reason your employer also disabled Wayland in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf.  
> Regardless, I'm glad you were able to find a workaround for your particular 
> use case.  I did notice that, on my Rocky Linux 8 box, the greeter always 
> starts Xorg on Display :0 regardless of the value of WaylandEnable.  Maybe 
> Ubuntu 22 can behave that way as well, under certain circumstances.
>
>
> On 1/2/24 3:16 PM, Torsten Kupke wrote:
>
> Hi DRC,
>
> for me this issue is resolved in the meanwhile. I managed the relevant 
> files on the remote host to start TuboVNC's X Server for display :2 and 
> therefore with port 5902. And for both TuboVNC viewers (on the remote host 
> too and on my Windows PC at home) I did the same. That works perfectly. So 
> I wouldn't need an improvement regarding this.
>
> And no, I don't use VirtualGL. The remote host is my workstation (owned by 
> my employer), where I do my daily work. For my job I have no need to use 
> OpenGL (or VirtualGL).
>
> But I have some other new issues with TuboVNC, which I will report in the 
> next days (when I have some time to write the mail(s)).
>
> BR
>
> transgar
> Am 02.01.2024 um 20:45 schrieb 'DRC' via TurboVNC User Discussion/Support:
>
> Further information regarding this issue: 
>
> With the default GDM configuration, there is no X server active on the 
> login screen, because the GDM greeter is using Wayland.  When you log in, 
> either Xwayland or Xorg (depending on whether you chose a Wayland or an 
> Xorg session) is started on Display :0, so there is no possibility of a 
> conflict with TurboVNC.  However, if you use vglserver_config in VirtualGL 
> to configure the host for use with VirtualGL's GLX back end, 
> vglserver_config will disable Wayland in GDM.  That causes the GDM greeter 
> to use Xorg rather than Wayland, and the greeter's Xorg instance listens on 
> Display :0.  Thus, VirtualGL can use the greeter's X server to access the 
> GPU while the host is sitting at the login prompt.
>
> On hosts configured thusly (with WaylandEnable=false in GDM's custom.conf 
> file), a conflict occurs if you start a TurboVNC session while the host is 
> sitting at the login prompt, then you log in locally.  When you start a 
> TurboVNC session while the host is sitting at the login prompt, TurboVNC 
> (rightfully) chooses Display :1 for the session, because nothing is using 
> the resources associated with Display :1.  However, if you then log in 
> locally, GDM starts a second Xorg instance for the local session (so as not 
> to conflict with the greeter's Xorg instance.)  GDM indiscriminately 
> chooses Display :1 for the local session without checking whether something 
> else is already using the resources associated with Display :1.  Thus, it 
> effectively stomps all over the TurboVNC session that is listening on 
> Display :1.  That causes the problems that you observed.
>
> I can (and will) make the vncserver script more robust, in the sense that 
> it will check whether an abstract socket for a display number is in use 
> before deciding to use that display number.  However, GDM needs to do 
> likewise.
>
> The only apparent workarounds for this are:
>
> 1. If you have used vglserver_config to configure a host for use with 
> VirtualGL's GLX back end, then be very cautious when logging in locally.  
> That is true irrespective of TurboVNC, because logging in locally on such a 
> host will cause GDM to suspend the greeter's X server, which has the effect 
> of causing any applications currently running with VirtualGL to freeze.  
> Use '/opt/TurboVNC/bin/vncserver -list' to ensure that no TurboVNC sessions 
> are listening on :1 before you log in locally, and avoid local logins if at 
> all possible.
>
> 2. Comment out 'WaylandEnable=false' in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf, and restart 
> GDM.  This is not true of all modern Linux systems, but with Ubuntu 22 at 
> least, GDM will continue to start an Xorg instance at the login prompt even 
> though the greeter is using Wayland.  You can set VGL_DISPLAY=:1024 to use 
> that Xorg instance as a 3D X server with VirtualGL's GLX back end.
>
> I'm also going to investigate whether it might be possible for VirtualGL 
> to play more nicely with Wayland on modern Linux distributions.
>
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 1:40:38 PM UTC-5 DRC wrote:
>
>> No, by deleting /tmp/.X11-unix/X1, I was able to exactly reproduce the 
>> issue you reported with the Session Manager.  That error occurred when 
>> the Session Manager tried to start a new TurboVNC session through SSH.  
>> In order for Port=5901 to have any effect, it would either have to be 
>> specified in the default TurboVNC connection info file 
>> (~/.vnc/default.turbovnc), or it would have to be specified in another 
>> connection info file (either a TightVNC-compatible connection info file, 
>> which has a .vnc extension, or a TurboVNC connection info file, which 
>> has a .turbovnc extension) that you pass to the TurboVNC Viewer on the 
>> command line.  Otherwise, the mere existence of such a connection info 
>> file on the machine wouldn't matter.  Also, the error occurred prior to 
>> the TurboVNC Viewer attempting to establish the RFB connection with the 
>> TurboVNC Server, so the viewer had not yet used the value of the Port 
>> parameter. 
>>
>> DRC 
>>
>> On 12/19/23 12:40 PM, Torsten Kupke wrote: 
>> > Hi CRC, 
>> > 
>> > Am 19.12.2023 um 16:41 schrieb 'DRC' via TurboVNC User 
>> > Discussion/Support: 
>> >> Apparently something happened that caused /tmp/.X11-unix/X1 to be 
>> >> deleted, so the vncserver script didn't know that the primary X 
>> >> server was using Display :1, and it tried to use that display number 
>> >> itself. 
>> > 
>> > Maybe I have another explantion for this: I have a .vnc file stored on 
>> > that machine specifying "port=5901". I think, the viewer found this 
>> > file and therefore tried to connect to the XServer :1. Could this be 
>> > the case? So if :1 now is in use by the native XServer, I simply would 
>> > have to specify "port=5902" in my .vnc file. Can you agree? Would this 
>> > solve my issue? 
>> > 
>> > However, I'm on Christmas vacation now. So I will need a proper 
>> > solution not before 2nd of Jan. '24. 
>> > 
>> > Merry Christmas and a happy new year for you and all other readers! 
>> > 
>> > tkansgar 
>> > 
>>
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