<<as Shahbaz points out, most of the time, Ubuntu will connect automatically to one of the networks you have connected to before. So most of the time, if you open the menu to connect to a Wi-Fi network, it is to connect to a network that you have *not* connected to before. It would be counterproductive, then, to show by default only networks that you *have* connected to before.>>
No, this is not accurate. 1) there are lots of users who do not want networks connecting automatically, so they manually select the network they want. 2) even if Ubuntu is set to automatically connect to networks, if there are more than one network in range that a user regularly connects to, he/she HAS to manually select the network because Ubuntu does not know which network to automatically connect to. Except the way Ubuntu currently works, the user is forced to wade through unknown networks to single out the network/s they have previously connected to in the past. 3) there are other reasons to access the network-indicator besides connecting to a network. And having NEVER-USED, NEVER-WILL-USE networks taking up space in the drop-down is not a smart design choice 4) there is no good reason NOT to confine networks you have never connected to the "More networks" folder or an "Unknown networks" folder. Demarcating networks like this makes it easier on the user because it helps identify to the user which networks they have and have-not connected to in the past. And it allows simplified presentation of the network-indicator menu; it also aides user memory of what networks they have connected to in the past without forcing them to visit the "Edit Connections" section of the network-indicator menu. Networks are already demarcated into the "More networks" folder. But there is little logic to why they are put in the folder. Add some logic and understanding to the placement of networks in this folder, logic that the User immediately understands. <<Where you have previously connected to more than one of the networks in range, the menu prioritizes showing these ones, ahead of showing networks that you have not connected to before. After that, it prioritizes the strongest other networks, minimizing the probability that the network you want isn't at the top level. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-menu>> No, this is untrue. I regularly have to fish out the network I want at the bottom of the network-indicator dropdown list because other networks are placed above it in the list (networks I have never connected to and never will connect to). <<for example, you may not remember whether you used the Wi-Fi the last time you were at this particular cafe/airport/etc, so you may not remember whether the network is "known" or not. And having two lists of networks, separated by other functional items, would be rather inelegant.>> What? You do not understand what I am reporting as the bug. If you fix the bug I am reporting, the user would immediately know whether he/she used the network in the past because Ubuntu would display it in the network-indicator dropdown. The network was connected to before, so it would show up in the network-indicator list. If the network has NEVER been connected to before, it will only show in the "More networks" folder or the "Unknown networks" folder. Having networks list in the network-indicator list that the user will NEVER connect to and has NEVER connected to in the past is what is inelegant and screws with the user's memory. In my proposal, the user does not have to remember whether the network is "known" or not. Ubuntu tells the user the network is known (or connected to before) because it is not listing it in the "Unknown networks" folder. Let me restate what you need to do to fix this problem: Networks that have never been connected to in the past should not directly display in the network-indicator drop-down. Instead, they should be confined to a folder that says "Unknown Networks." If a connection has been made to the network in the past, then the network should directly display in the network-indicator drop-down. <Part of adapting the phone Wi-Fi settings to the PC will, I hope, be introducing the ability to arrange previous networks in order of preference. Once that is done, I don't think there will be any point in also letting you confine/blacklist networks.> This bug reports the inelegant and inefficient organziation and handling of wifi networks that currently exists in Ubuntu. It should be fixed as soon as possible. Currently, every time a user wants to connect to a network, he/she has to hunt through a list of networks that perpetually show but that the user will NEVER EVER connect to. What sense does this make to force this on Ubuntu users? Every user on earth will immediately understand to look in the "More Networks" folder or a folder called "Unknown Networks" for networks that they have not connected to in the past. And then once the user has connected to a network that network will display in the network-indicator dropdown, in effect stating this is a known network that you have connected to in the past. This design helps the user understand what the safe/formerly visited networks are and it helps the user maintain a clean and organized network-indicator menu. Currently the user is bombarded with unknown networks mixed in with known networks. Fixing this bug will result in the network- indicator's presentation being more elegant and organized, in effect saying, "Here are the networks that you have connected to before at this location. Other networks are available in the Unknown Networks folder, but you have not connected to them before and their legitimacy or safety etc is unknown." The way you guys have it now is inelegant and inefficient and actually presents a bit of a security/privacy issue because it FORCES users to perpetually wade through network they will NEVER EVER connect to. ** Changed in: indicator-network (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to indicator-network in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1425991 Title: Networks I have never connected to should be confined to an "Unknown Networks" folder Status in indicator-network package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When a user clicks the network manager indicator, a dropdown appears and lists wifi networks. This menu should NOT display networks that the user has never connected to. Networks the user has never connected to should only display in the "More networks" folder. At a mininum, the user should be given the ability to confine unwanted networks in the "More networks" folder. It is an unproductive design choice to force users to have to wade through networks they have never connected to (networks they will never connect to) in their menu. Numerous reasons exist why a user will not use the Auto-Connect setting for wireless networks. So it makes sense and is more efficient to have the menu only display the networks the user makes active use of and no more. When I click on the Network Manager Indicator and select "Edit Connections" and then look under the "Wifi" heading, only a couple networks appear. So why do 5 or more networks (networks I have never connected to, networks I never will connect to) perpetually show in the Network Indicator menu? They should not be displayed like they are. They should be confined to the "More networks" folder. Alternatively, there should be a way to manually confine/sandbox unwanted networks to this folder so they no longer display in the dropdown menu. In the interest of providing a visual example of what I am talking about, here is a picture of some networks I would like to hide/remove from my Network Indicator menu. http://a.pomf.se/fdqlnn.png To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1425991/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
