On Mar 7, 2012 2:36 AM, "Jim Bowring" <bowr...@gmail.com
    Why the closed-minded vitriol about the academy?  Positive actions
    are required!

Jim -- I can see how this might not have come through in my original message on this thread, but I've found that I'm a harsh critic of the things I love the most. If I didn't have such high regard for the academy and its power to affect the world, and had no hope or intention of changing it for the better, I would not be sitting in the ivory tower right now. :)

As Seb pointed out, identifying the problems in anything is the first step to improving them; positive actions tend to stem from visions of how something could be better than it currently is. Since this mailing list tends to have a lot of academics on it, my writing here tends to be skewed more towards the "here's what FOSS does right and academia does wrong; let's transfer goodness in that direction!" theme (perhaps sometimes unfairly so).

Conversely, when I'm in a group of mostly-hackers, I tend to talk more about the things that FOSS is doing wrong and academia is doing right, and argue that FOSS should adopt those practices. For instance, FOSS projects tend to have ridiculously high failure-and-dropout rates due to poorly designed scaffolding (or a lack thereof), and schools are more proactive about identifying and aiding newcomers who are struggling. I guess I should say these sorts of things here more as well -- thanks for inadvertently pointing that out.

Either way, the first step to change is understanding -- and I think what Seb and I are trying to do, as relative newcomers to the academic world (and experienced denizens of the FOSS world) is to understand and make sense of our new environment -- and part of that is fumbling around and saying (seemingly) stupid things and learning from how folks respond to them. The comments on my blog post (http://blog.melchua.com/2012/03/07/foss-thinking-vs-academic-thinking/#comments) have likewise been illuminating food for thought -- I totally didn't expect this big a reaction, but hey... that's how we learn.

Ideas for specific positive actions to take are welcome. I mean, I do need a dissertation someday. :)

--Mel
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